
Adley Rutschman
#621
Posted 14 November 2022 - 07:06 PM
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#622
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:08 AM
2 writers didn't even have him on their ROY ballot because????
#623
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:10 AM
2 writers didn't even have him on their ROY ballot because????
Think I saw that some declined to vote because of the impact the first two places has on service time. I could be wrong but I thought I saw that recently
#624
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:13 AM
Think I saw that some declined to vote because of the impact the first two places has on service time. I could be wrong but I thought I saw that recently
Wow, if true, what a horrible reason to abstain. Should lose their credentials.
#625
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:28 AM
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
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Mike Elias
#626
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:32 AM
Wow, if true, what a horrible reason to abstain. Should lose their credentials.
A first- or second-place finish for Rutschman would give him a full year of service time under the new collective bargaining agreement. That’s a year closer to arbitration and free agency. And it’s why some writers were uncomfortable with the ballot or declined to vote.
From the MASN article Stoner linked a page back
#627
Posted 15 November 2022 - 08:56 AM
Wow, if true, what a horrible reason to abstain. Should lose their credentials.
I agree, if they don't like it they should give up their vote. Their job is to vote for ROY without regard to the other stuff, which is collectively bargained and not the concern of the writers. If everyone did that sure it'd be great for the O's, but they could have cost Adley a lot of money for no real reason. But it's not surprising, given that there always seem to be some weird protest HOF votes.
#628
Posted 15 November 2022 - 09:54 AM
I expected Adley to finish second. Trying to be unbiased, I would have voted for Rodriquez too. I dislike the new rule, costing the Orioles a year of service time. Too bad, Adley did not finish 3rd.
#629
Posted 15 November 2022 - 11:17 AM
I think the idea of the new rule is to give teams incentive not to play the service time game, and just bring up their best prospects at the beginning of the season. The O's might have had Adley on the OD roster, but his injury messed things up.
#630
Posted 15 November 2022 - 11:54 AM
Explanation from the guy who voted for Adley.
#631
Posted 15 November 2022 - 12:58 PM
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#632
Posted 15 November 2022 - 01:14 PM
They can avoid the loss of service time by extending him.
Bingo
#633
Posted 15 November 2022 - 01:30 PM
They can avoid the loss of service time by extending him.
I agree, but it affects the cost of the extension, because the price in $ and years at 1.000 service time is surely different than the price at 0.140 service time or whatever. As much as I hate to say it, if the cost is higher it's probably less likely the O's do it.
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#634
Posted 15 November 2022 - 01:42 PM
I think we can still extend him, but the price to do so is a lot higher now with a full year's service.
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#635
Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:09 PM
O's are never ahead of the curve in extending their own young talent.
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#636
Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:15 PM
Jones got one as well. I think he's the last guy.When's the last time the Orioles gave a big extension to a home grown talent? Markakis and his 6 year, $66 million deal in 09? Roberts got a 4 year, $40 million deal in 09 as well.
O's are never ahead of the curve in extending their own young talent.
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#637
Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:15 PM
Jones has to count for this exercise, since he was acquired with under a year service time.
#638
Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:44 PM
The O's have never done an early extension for anyone, as far as I can remember. Markakis got his extension after 3 years. They should have done one for Manny, but that's water under the bridge, I guess.
For a while, though, they were really good at extending their own players once they were close to free agency. At that point, I don't think homegrown really has anything to do with it. Besides Jones, Markakis and Roberts, they also extended guys like O'Day, Hardy (twice), and Trumbo. I guess Davis wasn't really an extension, since he had hit free agency, but they spent big money there. They gave Wieters a QO, etc.
They basically need to sign Adley to an extension or catch him 140+ games a year. They should make a big push for Gunnar, too.
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#639
Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:56 PM
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#640
Posted 15 November 2022 - 04:57 PM
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