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#41 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 18 December 2016 - 08:59 AM

I love Vlad. Who doesn't? If I really get down to it he's probably something like #12 on my ballot. He's such a unique and memorable player so I feel pretty confident he will get in. The shame is that Larry Walker is essentially equally deserving, if not even more so, and he's all but ignored.

 

FanGraphs: If You Vote for Vlad, You Have to Vote for Walker


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Posted 18 December 2016 - 10:23 PM

CBS Sports: The 10 players I'd elect to the Baseball Hall of Fame and those who miss the cut
http://www.cbssports...o-miss-the-cut/



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Posted 19 December 2016 - 10:44 PM

The tracker so far:

 

66 ballots made public. 

 

https://onedrive.liv...AE2Lu5P1f92OW8o


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Posted 19 December 2016 - 11:02 PM

62% is a good number for Moose gething in at some point over the next few years

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:45 PM

I believe Curt Schilling is a Hall of Famer, if more toward the borderline than others think, and behind Mussina. I also believe that the character clause is applied in such a haphazard manner that it is essentially meaningless, and that entirely off-the-field stuff really shouldn't matter unless it does affect the play of the game. I think that any protest votes from writers will fade over time, and he'll eventually recover enough to get in.

 

That said, I find it absolutely hilarious seeing him getting smacked down by the writers this year after all he's said, both specifically about reporters and just in general. He's lost 13 votes from last year just out of the 74 publicly available. Hoffman lost six, but even so gained seven, still ending up in the black. Everyone else returned to the ballot has gained votes except Kent and McGriff, and both are currently just minus-1, as opposed to minus-9.


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Posted 22 December 2016 - 08:03 PM

Sports on Earth: Upswing: Bonds & Roger's HOF Chances



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Posted 26 December 2016 - 09:27 AM

BBHof Tracker has an estimated 25.1% of the votes. So, at the quarter mark:

 

In:

Bagwell (92.7%)

Raines (91.7%)

Rodriguez (84.4%)

Guerrero (76.1%)

 

Just missed (within 5%):

Hoffman (74.1%)

Bonds (70.6%)

Clemens (70.6%)

 

Notables:

Edgar Martinez (67%, +18 votes)

Mike Mussina (59.6%, +8 votes)

Curt Schilling (52.3%, -9 votes)

Manny Ramirez (33.0%, first ballot)

Lee Smith (30.3%, +1 vote, final ballot)

Larry Walker (22.9%, +9 votes)

 

So it looks like the anti-PED debate is starting to fade, with Bonds and Clemens receiving huge jumps and even Manny Ramirez getting a third of the vote so far. Raines is seeing a huge run in his last chance, with 18 new votes. Edgar Martinez is also seeing the same bump, presumably with all of the Ortiz Hall of Fame talk this season and the reminder that there is already a legendary DH on the ballot. Interestingly, Larry Walker is getting a pretty big bump too. He's likely seeing a similar argument as Martinez, with Guerrero on the ballot and people being reminded of how similar the two of them were and just how good Walker was even before Colorado.

 

I'm curious to see just how many ballots are received this year. Thibodoux ended up with 70+% of the ballots in 2016, and it's been jumping by 10% or so every year. Next year, as mentioned, all ballots will be made public, but I assume that will happen when the results are announced, so it will be curious to see going forward how many reporters decide to make their ballots public early when they know they will be revealed at the end.


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Posted 30 December 2016 - 07:39 PM

Here is the article I wrote on this years ballot: http://baltimorespor...ll-fame-ballot/


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 06:35 AM

Was wondering if you ran off to Canada after election night. Should have figured it would only take the HOF balloting season for you to make a return. I would have your top 5 plus Raines in this year. 6 players. You make a good case for Wagner. Someone I'll admit I never had in consideration. Never knew he was that dominant. This trend towards lights out RP could really help him in the future. The only ones on this list I'll seriously be considering adding in the next few years are Pudge, Manny, and Walker.

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 10:52 AM

Weber and my ballots are exactly the same except I have Hoffman in instead of Wagner.


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Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:10 AM

If Bonds doesnt get in on the first or 2nd ballot then neither does Manny. No sir. He can wait. Pudge isnt getting in on the first ballot for similar reasons.

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:20 AM

If Bonds doesnt get in on the first or 2nd ballot than neither does Manny. No sir. He can wait. Pudge isnt getting in on the first ballot for similar reasons. 

The early results look very good for Pudge.

 

I just wish Bonds and Clemens would get in so we could move on.

 

The idea that Schilling is being hurt because of how outspoken he is on social issues is the biggest joke of them all.  These f'ing writers and their personal agendas are absurd.  



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Posted 31 December 2016 - 11:45 AM

Was wondering if you ran off to Canada after election night. Should have figured it would only take the HOF balloting season for you to make a return. I would have your top 5 plus Raines in this year. 6 players. You make a good case for Wagner. Someone I'll admit I never had in consideration. Never knew he was that dominant. This trend towards lights out RP could really help him in the future. The only ones on this list I'll seriously be considering adding in the next few years are Pudge, Manny, and Walker.



I wrote the final piece of my top 25 basketball players series post election, but you probably don't want to read that. ;)

I'm also pretty sure that BSL works in Canada. :D

Why won't you consider Edgar?

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:06 PM

I wrote the final piece of my top 25 basketball players series post election, but you probably don't want to read that. ;)

I'm also pretty sure that BSL works in Canada. :D

Why won't you consider Edgar?

Great hitter. I just don't know how I feel about a full time DH in the HOF. It's not a definite no so we will see in future years.

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:07 PM

Can't remember. Was Pudge in the Mitchell Report?

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:10 PM

I wrote the final piece of my top 25 basketball players series post election, but you probably don't want to read that. ;)


I'm also pretty sure that BSL works in Canada. :D


Why won't you consider Edgar?
Great hitter. I just don't know how I feel about a full time DH in the HOF. It's not a definite no so we will see in future years.


Does playing a position poorly help a player's case in your view?

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:34 PM

Can't remember. Was Pudge in the Mitchell Report?

Cant remember either...but he has had a lot of suspicion around him.



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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:34 PM

Great hitter. I just don't know how I feel about a full time DH in the HOF. It's not a definite no so we will see in future years.

If you are ok with a reliever, you should be ok with a DH.



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Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:40 PM

Pudge was not in the Mitchell Report.

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Posted 31 December 2016 - 01:15 PM


Does playing a position poorly help a player's case in your view?

Yes. Especially AL guys who could conceivably be moved to DH.




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