Photo

2017 HOF Ballot


  • Please log in to reply
110 replies to this topic

#61 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 30,363 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 31 December 2016 - 01:20 PM

Yes. Especially AL guys who could conceivably be moved to DH.

 

Not that Trumbo is going to make the HOF, but his career resume is better to you because he played a lot of RF last year?



#62 bnickle

bnickle

    Banned

  • Banned
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 38,177 posts

Posted 31 December 2016 - 02:27 PM

I think for a position player defense is essentially half of your job. Anyone who is atrocious at it should be marked down when it comes to HOF evaluation.

#63 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 30,363 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 31 December 2016 - 02:39 PM

I think for a position player defense is essentially half of your job. Anyone who is atrocious at it should be marked down when it comes to HOF evaluation.



Sure, so guys who do play bad defense shouldn't really get a boost for it compared to someone that just DH's.

Frank Thomas for instance shouldn't get extra credit for playing a decent amount of games at first poorly. He has a better case purely as a hitter, though.

Btw, Edgar did play 564 games at third.

#64 DJ MC

DJ MC

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,680 posts
  • LocationBeautiful Bel Air, MD

Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:11 AM

Btw, Edgar did play 564 games at third.


And depending on how much you trust the numbers, he wasn't that bad at it.
@DJ_McCann

#65 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    I Miss McNulty

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,549 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 01 January 2017 - 12:56 AM

Edgar Martinez absolutely should be in the HOF

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#66 Icterus galbula

Icterus galbula

    Half-Member, Half-Amazing

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,224 posts
  • LocationThe Big Easy

Posted 01 January 2017 - 01:05 PM

300/400/500 club. Very few players have done that. I call it a no brainer too.

#67 SportsGuy

SportsGuy

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 91,979 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 01 January 2017 - 03:17 PM

I say if you are ok with a reliever, who is a "part time" pitcher, you should be fine with a DH.

#68 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 30,363 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 01 January 2017 - 04:40 PM

300/400/500 club. Very few players have done that. I call it a no brainer too.



Sheff contributed at least as much offensively as Edgar, so if Martinez is a no brainer, Sheff should be in too imo.

#69 Mike in STL

Mike in STL

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 28,346 posts

Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:37 PM

Bonds

Clemens

Bagwell

Mussina
Schilling

Pudge

Raines

Edgar

Hoffman

L. Smith


@BSLMikeRandall

#70 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    I Miss McNulty

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,549 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:58 PM

Bonds
Clemens
Bagwell
Mussina
Schilling
Pudge
Raines
Edgar
Hoffman
L. Smith


I think I am 9/10 agreement with you

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#71 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    I Miss McNulty

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,549 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 01 January 2017 - 11:58 PM

Yea I have manny on mine instead of lee smith

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#72 Mike in STL

Mike in STL

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 28,346 posts

Posted 02 January 2017 - 12:03 AM

Yea I have manny on mine instead of lee smith

I had Smith on last year, so I left him there for his last chance. Manny will get in though. Fact is Bonds and Clemens and Bagwell should already be in and not creating this log jam so I could also put Manny, Walker and Vlad on the ballot.


  • Pedro Cerrano likes this
@BSLMikeRandall

#73 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    I Miss McNulty

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 35,549 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 02 January 2017 - 12:42 AM

I had Smith on last year, so I left him there for his last chance. Manny will get in though. Fact is Bonds and Clemens and Bagwell should already be in and not creating this log jam so I could also put Manny, Walker and Vlad on the ballot.

 

Very true.


There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#74 BSLChrisStoner

BSLChrisStoner

    Owner

  • Administrators
  • 156,130 posts

Posted 02 January 2017 - 09:15 AM

Sports Illustrated: JAWS and the 2017 Hall of Fame ballot: My virtual ballot and final 10



#75 DJ MC

DJ MC

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,680 posts
  • LocationBeautiful Bel Air, MD

Posted 05 January 2017 - 09:54 PM

Sweetspot: Who will be the next Hall of Famer for each MLB team?


@DJ_McCann

#76 BSLChrisStoner

BSLChrisStoner

    Owner

  • Administrators
  • 156,130 posts

Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:29 PM

Sports Illustrated: Projecting Hall of Fame vote: Who's going to Cooperstown?



#77 DJ MC

DJ MC

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,680 posts
  • LocationBeautiful Bel Air, MD

Posted 13 January 2017 - 11:14 AM

Posnanski: Ballot 7: Larry Walker

 

I’ve come around to a slightly different view: It’s time to fight for Larry Walker. I am thrilled Tim Raines will be elected to the Hall this year; that has been a fight of mine for a long time (though not as big a fight as for others like Jonah Keri).

 

I think Larry Walker might have been a better player than Raines.


@DJ_McCann

#78 DJ MC

DJ MC

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 23,680 posts
  • LocationBeautiful Bel Air, MD

Posted 14 January 2017 - 03:49 PM

Posnanski: Ballot 13: Sammy Sosa


@DJ_McCann

#79 BSLChrisStoner

BSLChrisStoner

    Owner

  • Administrators
  • 156,130 posts

Posted 16 January 2017 - 11:24 AM

CBS Sports: The 10 players I'd elect to the Baseball Hall of Fame and those who would miss the cut
http://www.cbssports...d-miss-the-cut/



#80 Nigel Tufnel

Nigel Tufnel

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,946 posts

Posted 16 January 2017 - 01:16 PM

What's the theory for voting for Edgar Martinez over Manny Ramirez?  Isn't Manny basically Edgar plus power and postseason success?  Does it just come down to PED's?






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users


Our Sponsors


 width=