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#21 DJ MC

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 02:05 PM

Joe Posnanski: Today’s Game Ballot

 

He breaks down the ballot, but more importantly makes a very good point about how the ballot itself is flawed.


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Posted 04 December 2016 - 06:02 PM

Bud's in.

 

HardballTalk: Report: Bud Selig elected to the Hall of Fame


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#23 Mike B

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 10:37 PM

Bud's in.

 

HardballTalk: Report: Bud Selig elected to the Hall of Fame

Longevity I guess.  Mediocre commissioner and owner.

 

Maybe the voters liked the hairpiece.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 08:09 AM

Selig and John Schurholtz.

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 08:19 AM

https://twitter.com/...561827434168320

Senseless to keep steroid guys out when the enablers are in Hall of Fame. I now will hold my nose and vote for players I believe cheated.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:02 AM

https://twitter.com/...561827434168320
 

Good!!

 

Do whatever you have to do, but make sure Barry Bonds is in the Hall of Fame!


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:16 AM

https://twitter.com/...561827434168320
 

What an excellent point.    



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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:23 AM

Tired of all the crap with the HOF voting.  The whole voting process IMO, needs to be overhauled,and some of those who have votes need to go.

 

All that said, enough with the holier than thou, approach by BB writes.  Vote based on the numbers, and let the cheaters in.  They were playing against other cheaters so maybe it was a even playing field.

 

I know it is a stupid argument, just tired of hearing about Bonds, Clemens, and others every year.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:31 AM

Tired of all the crap with the HOF voting.  The whole voting process IMO, needs to be overhauled,and some of those who have votes need to go.

 

All that said, enough with the holier than thou, approach by BB writes.  Vote based on the numbers, and let the cheaters in.  They were playing against other cheaters so maybe it was a even playing field.

 

I know it is a stupid argument, just tired of hearing about Bonds, Clemens, and others every year.

Exactly.

 

Let the best players in, and if so important to talk about the steroids, put it on their plaque.


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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:36 AM

I just tweeted at Slusser about that and she said its absolutely defensible to not vote for them because of the character clause stuff.

 

What a bunch of horse shit.  I hate these damn writers.


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#31 Mackus

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 11:43 AM

Now that there are tests, suspensions, and penalties for PEDs, is it even cheating?  If you get caught, you pay the penalty, then move on.

 

Is a balk the pitcher cheating?  Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don't, and if you don't, you pay the price and continue on with the game.  How absurd would it be for some HOF votes to refuse to vote for a pitcher because he got called for a lot of balks and the voter just can't know how many more should have been called that went undetected.



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 11:21 AM

All ballots will need to be made public starting in 2018.



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 11:48 AM

That's a good thing.  Why the grace period?  Or is that for the 2018 class, meaning the next time they vote?



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 11:58 AM

That's a good thing.  Why the grace period?  Or is that for the 2018 class, meaning the next time they vote?

 

Pretty sure it's just the next time they vote.



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Posted 06 December 2016 - 12:13 PM

All ballots will need to be made public starting in 2018.

 

Good.


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Posted 06 December 2016 - 12:15 PM

That's a good thing.  Why the grace period?  Or is that for the 2018 class, meaning the next time they vote?

 

That'll be next time they vote.

 

Also:

 

http://bbwaa.com/2016/12/17-spink/

 

Claire Smith, who has been a pioneer within the baseball community as the first female to cover a major league baseball beat extensively and as an influential voice among African-American writers, was elected the 2017 winner of the J.G. Taylor Spink Award in balloting by the Baseball Writers’ Association of America.


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 09:30 AM

Posnanski on Melvin Mora:

 

http://joeposnanski....28-melvin-mora/


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Posted 08 December 2016 - 09:46 AM

Beautiful.


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Posted 16 December 2016 - 09:08 PM

Sports Illustrated: JAWS and the 2017 Hall of Fame ballot: Vladimir Guerrero
http://www.si.com/ml...adimir-guerrero



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Posted 17 December 2016 - 12:08 PM

I love Vlad. Who doesn't? If I really get down to it he's probably something like #12 on my ballot. He's such a unique and memorable player so I feel pretty confident he will get in. The shame is that Larry Walker is essentially equally deserving, if not even more so, and he's all but ignored.




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