You think Thome's a bench guy?
At 41 with back problems, I think it's a stretch to think Thome will play every day, even at DH.
Posted 30 June 2012 - 11:46 PM
You think Thome's a bench guy?
Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:05 AM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 04:23 AM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:06 AM
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax..."
-Walter Sobchak
Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:59 AM
"I think it's exciting. He's a guy I loved to watch play growing up. I have a lot of respect for him and I'm excited to have him here, not only as a player, but as kind of a mentor. He's been on winning teams," Davis said.
"He obviously knows the game and I've heard nothing but great things about him as far as his character and his personality. He's a class act and we're going to welcome him with open arms. Hopefully he can swing it for us like he could against us."
Davis said he had heard that Thome was a high-character guy that will be a good addition.
"Absolutely. That kind of goes unsaid with as long as he's been around the game," Davis said. "You don't hang around that long, even as good as he is, if you're a bad person. He's played for winning teams and like I said, I've never heard a bad thing about him."
Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:45 AM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:41 AM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 09:02 AM
Thumbs up on this trade. I'm kind of surprised at all the hand-wringing on this thread about the fringy low-upside prospects we gave up. It sounds like the biggest concern is that Thome isn't going to make much of a difference to our playoff hopes, so why give up anything? But even if Thome is not a difference-maker - and I'm willing to say that that's true - the credibility of our organization is at stake. If we want to attract the big talent, we need to put up a .500 season and look like a team that is hungry to win.
Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:34 AM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:14 PM
I have always heard Thome referred to as the best teammate in the game.
JJ Hardy played with Thome in 2010 - "He's that superstar that acts like everyone else. He's friends with everyone. The perfect teammate."
Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:34 PM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 12:36 PM
I am not shocked people hate this trade. We over value our prospects. The fact we let Lino go for Thome tells me that they have legit concerns with this guy. He is struggling at A and if he has issues with working hard at his craft, he probably will never see the majors.
And Simon is a BP arm. Who cares?
Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:14 PM
I am not shocked people hate this trade. We over value our prospects. The fact we let Lino go for Thome tells me that they have legit concerns with this guy. He is struggling at A and if he has issues with working hard at his craft, he probably will never see the majors.
And Simon is a BP arm. Who cares?
Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:43 PM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 05:51 PM
Right...of course, now the defense really blows.
Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:26 PM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 10:23 PM
Posted 01 July 2012 - 10:29 PM
I like targeting Thome, but I don't think we had to give up the guys we did. Probably not guys who will amount to much, similar to the Teagarden and Eveland trades, but I don't like giving up respectable third-tier prospects for a 3-month rental, and one limited to DH at that.
It'll be cool to see Thome in an O's uniform, though.
Posted 01 July 2012 - 11:12 PM
Posted 02 July 2012 - 12:13 AM
I keep seeing this. Sure, as prospects they are replaceable. However, if you have 20 legit prospects like Lino and Simon (these are not organizational filler but guys with real talent) one or two will make it. We don't know if Lino and Simon are amongst the ones who surprise and improve their prospect status and even become productive ML players or are amongst the majority who never make it at all or have insignicant ML careers. To suggest that you just easily replace these guys with two more is just wrong.
A team like the Orioles should be building up inventory like this to increase their odds, not trading it for a minimal short term gain that means nothing. The production we get now from Thome even if it's better than we would have gotten with Davis, Reynolds, or Betemit at DH, which is debatable, will only slightly improve the record of a 4th or 5th place team. If that's the goal, I'm not real excited by it. Even if it's not the goal, it's the reality.
Prediction: With increased playing time, Thome shows that he's close to the end and has a sub .800 OPS with the O's. He also forces Betemit, Reynolds, and Davis all into the field with gloves on, which is scary. Offense not improved much, if at all, defense weakened. Of course, this prediction has nothing to do with the trade being horribly wrong on principle alone.
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