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[SportsGuy]

I keep Hammel.

I look to trade both JJs, Lindstrom, Gregg, Reynolds and Betimet.

[Oriole85]

Depends what you can get for him, don't they only have one more year of him? So if we're not moving him this year, aren't we moving him next year assuming he wouldn't agree to a team-friendly extension? And the package, we'd get for him next year, probably wouldn't be as good.

The only way I'd definitely keep him is if they are realistically competing next year anyway.

[RShack]

I clicked on this thread, expecting to see comments about how the guy did tonight... and I find myself reading stuff that doesn't make any sense... and then I see it's a thread from ~2 months ago. Huh?

Is there a policy about having just one mega-thread per guy and everything about him gets funneled into it? Seems pretty weird to me, but I guess there's a reason for it. Dunno what it is though. Maybe it's a reaction to how things work at another place that always has umpteen threads that started within 30 minutes of each other, all demanding that the team punish anybody who has a bad night or two?

I'm mainly just curious... although it is kind of a drag to have to go hunting around to find the starting place for recent posts about anybody... (NBFD, just my 2 cents, that's all...)

[BSLChrisStoner]

I clicked on this thread, expecting to see comments about how the guy did tonight... and I find myself reading stuff that doesn't make any sense... and then I see it's a thread from ~2 months ago. Huh?

Is there a policy about having just one mega-thread per guy and everything about him gets funneled into it? Seems pretty weird to me, but I guess there's a reason for it. Dunno what it is though. Maybe it's a reaction to how things work at another place that always has umpteen threads that started within 30 minutes of each other, all demanding that the team punish anybody who has a bad night or two?

I'm mainly just curious... although it is kind of a drag to have to go hunting around to find the starting place for recent posts about anybody... (NBFD, just my 2 cents, that's all...)

There is a thread (now locked) in the Introduction section, 'Something that bugs me,' which provides background on this. Others have shared your sentiment, so we will make an adjustment.

[SportsGuy]

http://www.baltimore... ... 5471.story

[You Play to Win the Game]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/bal-orioles-starter-jason-hammel-jays-took-strong-swings-on-breaking-balls-like-they-knew-they-were-coming-20120530,0,3125471.story

From that article:

“When you’re locating your fastball, youre going to give up some home runs there, but the swings they were taking on he breaking stuff, it was pretty amazing to me,” Hammel said. “I don’t think you can take swings like that not knowing they’re coming. I don’t know. That’s all I can say.

“There’s rumors and things like that,” he said. “I don’t know. I can’t speak on that, but they were taking very, very big strong hacks on breaking stuff.

“It was something I’ve never seen before.”

The Jays are sporting a .803 OPS at home vs. a .660 OPS on the road, FWIW.

[SportsGuy]

Doesn't matter...Hammel was off with his fb command last night. That's why he "struggled".

No worries at all though. Knee appeared to be a lot better and his stuff was still very good. Just had an off night with command which isn't that surprising since he is probably spending more off time working on his knee in comparison to working on his delivery, stuff, etc....

[JeremyStrain]

Doesn't matter...Hammel was off with his fb command last night. That's why he "struggled".

No worries at all though. Knee appeared to be a lot better and his stuff was still very good. Just had an off night with command which isn't that surprising since he is probably spending more off time working on his knee in comparison to working on his delivery, stuff, etc....

His knee could be WHY his command was off. The landing and your release happen right about the same time, if he was worried about the knee or trying to favor it, it could have been throwing off his release point, which would mess up his command.

[SportsGuy]

Doesn't matter...Hammel was off with his fb command last night. That's why he "struggled".

No worries at all though. Knee appeared to be a lot better and his stuff was still very good. Just had an off night with command which isn't that surprising since he is probably spending more off time working on his knee in comparison to working on his delivery, stuff, etc....

His knee could be WHY his command was off. The landing and your release happen right about the same time, if he was worried about the knee or trying to favor it, it could have been throwing off his release point, which would mess up his command.

Yea, certainly possible.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Doesn't matter...Hammel was off with his fb command last night. That's why he "struggled".

No worries at all though. Knee appeared to be a lot better and his stuff was still very good. Just had an off night with command which isn't that surprising since he is probably spending more off time working on his knee in comparison to working on his delivery, stuff, etc....

I agree. I actually would have preferred he not go there with the media. If he felt something suspicious was up, he should have let Buck escalate it through the appropriate channels. It doesn't look right when you're using that an excuse with the media. Dare I say, it's Girardi'esque.

[Mackus]

He is better than a #3.

Well that depends on how real the "new" Hammel and his 2-seamer are. He has been dynamite with it early in the year and I totally agree that if it's legitimately changed his repertoire that much, then he's better than a #3.

Even if he regresses a bit, 2 years of him is absolutely worth one year of Jeremy Guthrie, though. And Lindstrom is a great throw in. For a trade nobody was excited about, it's worked out quite well so far.

[BSLChrisStoner]

Getting Blanked: Fogging the Measure: The Hammel Variations
http://blogs.thescor...mel-variations/

[BSLChrisStoner]

Back on the mound tonight at Boston.

For the year, Hammel is 6-2, with a 3.06 era. In his 61.2 ip, he has allowed 54 hits, 7 hr's, 19 bb's, with 58 k's. His OPS against is .673, and his G/F is 1.18.

[You Play to Win the Game]

At Fenway, it's more important than ever to get groundballs. Let's hope Hammel can settle in tonight and keep the ball down. We sure could use a great start from him.

[Natty_O]

Has anyone heard how his knee is doing? It improved after it was drained and we got one good start followed by one ok start (alleged sign stealing aside). After his last start, there was some scuttle that his knee regressed, but nobody can/will officially comment on it. Does anyone have any insight?

[SportsGuy]

Has anyone heard how his knee is doing? It improved after it was drained and we got one good start followed by one ok start (alleged sign stealing aside). After his last start, there was some scuttle that his knee regressed, but nobody can/will officially comment on it. Does anyone have any insight?

Yea, I saw Adair kind of hint that the issue was flaring up again.

They need to DL him if he can't get through it.

I imagine tonight's start will tell the story.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Last start was a complete fluke IMO. 4 solo HRs to a team that OPSes that much higher at home leaves my head scratching.

The Sox are likely again without Pedroia but they're playing good baseball. If Hammel is still bothered by the knee they're gonna have to DL him and he can join the rest of the team in the hospital ward.

[Oriole85]

Last start was a complete fluke IMO. 4 solo HRs to a team that OPSes that much higher at home leaves my head scratching.

The Sox are likely again without Pedroia but they're playing good baseball. If Hammel is still bothered by the knee they're gonna have to DL him and he can join the rest of the team in the hospital ward.

I don't think it was a complete fluke at all, as you noted Tor OPSes much higher at home. For it to be a fluke, it would have to happen out of nowhere.

[BSLChrisStoner]

Hammel on the mound today. In Toronto he let up 4 homers. In Boston, he needed 106 pitches to get through 5 innings. Lots of deep counts. I want to see him pound the strike zone, and get ahead. Force the Phillies to swing, and eat up their bats with the 2 seamer.

[Can_of_corn]

Hammel on the mound today. In Toronto he let up 4 homers. In Boston, he needed 106 pitches to get through 5 innings. Lots of deep counts. I want to see him pound the strike zone, and get ahead. Force the Phillies to swing, and eat up their bats with the 2 seamer.

Didn't happen but nice job giving the team some clean innings after the horrendous start to the game.