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[PrimeTime]

And also that they don't have some premier pass catching TE.

 

Dawson Knox is their leading pass catcher at TE with 24 grabs for 288. That bodes well for us as we have had issue covering TEs that are active in the passing game. Albeit, using Chuck Clark on TEs has helped.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Dawson Knox is their leading pass catcher at TE with 24 grabs for 288. That bodes well for us as we have had issue covering TEs that are active in the passing game. Albeit, using Chuck Clark on TEs has helped.

Small little note, but I did notice Knox had a 20+ yeard reception in 4 of the last 5 games. That was basically it for him in those games, but still thought it was interesting. Sounds like he's good for a bail out, check down for a decent gain once or twice a game.

[Mike B]

Small little note, but I did notice Knox had a 20+ yeard reception in 4 of the last 5 games. That was basically it for him in those games, but still thought it was interesting. Sounds like he's good for a bail out, check down for a decent gain once or twice a game.

Sounds a little like Boyle who would occasionally sneak out for nice gains

[Huddle It Up Films]

Put this together to look at how the Bills defended our read option last year. They did pretty well. On these 17 runs the Ravens gained 79 yards, 4.65 YPC. Not terrible but not really dominant. The Bills did better as the game went on.

 

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[jamesdean]

In another wise uneventful game, this is the one highlight I'll always remember.  Hurst's speed really shocked me.

 

[PrimeTime]

Put this together to look at how the Bills defended our read option last year. They did pretty well. On these 17 runs the Ravens gained 79 yards, 4.65 YPC. Not terrible but not really dominant. The Bills did better as the game went on.

 

 

Nice work and Buffalo did indeed do a good job last year. Good news for us, our running game has evolved and we can attack the edges much more effectively than we did last year. (Shameless plus alert) Chris, Mike and I discussed this on last night's episode of The Bank.....Buffalo has struggled on edge runs, we can utilize Dobbins and even Duvernay on the jet sweep action to attack their edges. Hopefully, this will loosen them up and create space for Lamar to attack the middle of the field with his legs.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Here's the current forecast for Saturday for Orchard Park, NY. The precip is minimal, the wind worries me more.

 

[Mackus]

I feel like the Colts gave us a great blueprint both on how to attack Buffalo's defense and defend against their offense. I'm sure adjustments will be made, but it's gotta be a benefit for the Ravens coaching staff to have that tape.

[JordanKough]

Nice work and Buffalo did indeed do a good job last year. Good news for us, our running game has evolved and we can attack the edges much more effectively than we did last year. (Shameless plus alert) Chris, Mike and I discussed this on last night's episode of The Bank.....Buffalo has struggled on edge runs, we can utilize Dobbins and even Duvernay on the jet sweep action to attack their edges. Hopefully, this will loosen them up and create space for Lamar to attack the middle of the field with his legs.

 

Yeah, I'm not sure what happened in Arizona this year but I wonder if some of the personnel changes, no Loutelei and Shaq Lawson hurt Buffalo some this year, too.

 

https://twitter.com/...497151789916161

 

Look how poor they were at defending the zone read out of 12 personnel. Now imagine adding the triple threat counter pull here. Also note, except for the last run, that looks like 8ish guys in the box on every single of those plays. 

 

I think Buffalo is a lot softer in the middel this year than it was last year. 

[Huddle It Up Films]

Dobbins himself really does change a lot of what we can do. His mix of elusiveness and power is top tier. Not just on the edges but Edmunds will have his hands full between the tackles too.

 

We can beat them on basic NFL runs with Gus & JK and not have to get too fancy. Like a wise man Snoop Dogg once said "6 million ways to die, choose one"

[JordanKough]

The run I think that matters is the LJ QB run in the 4th quarter with 7:20 left and the Ravens up a TD.. The Ravens had no push on the interior and were not getting physical with Tenn. Powers got big pushed around his guy, created a seal and a lane. That was agaisnt a stacked box when the Titans KNEW the Ravens were going to run. THAT is the play if Baltimore can convert will just turn this Buffalo game into a route. 

 

You can see the play here: https://twitter.com/...688566331412480

 

31 creeps down intot he box, whcih was what was so effective in stopping the run in the first half, and the Ravens just execute better and it cuts loose. Also Philips holds his block on Simmons who was terrorizing the Ravens. The Bills have no equivalent player to Simmons and the Ravens OL should start pushign Buffalo around from the first snap.

 

(though I'd still take a deep shot on the first play from play action ) 

[PrimeTime]

Dobbins himself really does change a lot of what we can do. His mix of elusiveness and power is top tier. Not just on the edges but Edmunds will have his hands full between the tackles too.

 

We can beat them on basic NFL runs with Gus & JK and not have to get too fancy. Like a wise man Snoop Dogg once said "6 million ways to die, choose one"

Props on the quote from Snoop.

 

Mike and I have said this on the podcast, it seems oversimplified but if we just be "us", it's incredibly difficult for opposing defenses to deal with. In other words, don't panic, stick with what has gotten you to the dance....beat up the opposition on the ground by being relentless and wearing them down. Our style of offense is a lot like Novocain, it's going to work eventually.

[PrimeTime]

The run I think that matters is the LJ QB run in the 4th quarter with 7:20 left and the Ravens up a TD.. The Ravens had no push on the interior and were not getting physical with Tenn. Powers got big pushed around his guy, created a seal and a lane. That was agaisnt a stacked box when the Titans KNEW the Ravens were going to run. THAT is the play if Baltimore can convert will just turn this Buffalo game into a route. 

 

You can see the play here: https://twitter.com/...688566331412480

 

31 creeps down intot he box, whcih was what was so effective in stopping the run in the first half, and the Ravens just execute better and it cuts loose. Also Philips holds his block on Simmons who was terrorizing the Ravens. The Bills have no equivalent player to Simmons and the Ravens OL should start pushign Buffalo around from the first snap.

 

(though I'd still take a deep shot on the first play from play action ) 

 

There were several occasions last year when we opened the game with deep shot or had one very early. I believe we started the season with a deep shot in Miami, we definitely had one early at Cincinnati and we hit Boykin over the top early in the game at Seattle. Teams are so juiced up to contain the run that it has to be worth considering.

 

I would like to see us have some short, quick throws early on. Similar to how we attacked the Titans on the opening drive of the 2nd half. If anything, it gets LJ in a rhythm and builds some confidence early. Particularly if the weather is poor, it would be nice to get some easy completions early.

[jamesdean]

There were several occasions last year when we opened the game with deep shot or had one very early. I believe we started the season with a deep shot in Miami, we definitely had one early at Cincinnati and we hit Boykin over the top early in the game at Seattle. Teams are so juiced up to contain the run that it has to be worth considering.

 

I would like to see us have some short, quick throws early on. Similar to how we attacked the Titans on the opening drive of the 2nd half. If anything, it gets LJ in a rhythm and builds some confidence early. Particularly if the weather is poor, it would be nice to get some easy completions early.

I think that should be their passing attack all the time.  I'm no fan of Lamar throwing deep.  Let the receivers catch the ball underneath and challenge them to get YAC's. 

[JordanKough]

If you can get Buffalo to play two deep safety in this game instead of single high...there is no way Buffalo can win without some very bad luck going our way.

If the deep passing game is locked in, the day will be very long for Buffalo and I already think it will be long for them. Test it early, if Lamar is locked in, keep at it, if it's not there, get away from it early.

And I don't need the deep shot to be a TD shot. Look at this play to Hollywood on the 3rd and short where Lamar is forcing the shorter quicker throw. He's so wide open...it begs the question on the Boykin INT, why throw the deep fade or corner? Just run Hollywood back there until you make them pull up on coverage and THEN run the fade or corner...

https://twitter.com/...804037663670273

[JordanKough]

This is why I think the first play needs to be a deep shot. Look at what Buffalo did on the first snap against the Colts. Press on the two WRs, single high, 9 guys in the box...

 

https://twitter.com/...831695361458177

[JordanKough]

On the other hand, imagine this: https://twitter.com/...834643902615553

 

I think this play is a Dobbins house call with Lamar and Bozeman pulling...(obviously inserting Ravens rather than Colts here). 

[jamesdean]

This is why I think the first play needs to be a deep shot. Look at what Buffalo did on the first snap against the Colts. Press on the two WRs, single high, 9 guys in the box...

 

https://twitter.com/...831695361458177

But don't you think their DC is thinking the same thing?  That Roman has studied the Colt game thoroughly and will try to mimic what they did.  He'd be pretty stupid not to cover that base.  I say just do what you do best, stick to it, don't panic if you fall behind and everything will take care of itself.  Barring turnovers and excessive penalties of course. 

[Mackus]

Can we run the flea flicker from the Browns game on the first play again? Or an end-around to Duvernay?

Seems like the Ravens have run the most predictable, least effective trick plays for years now.