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[Nigel Tufnel]

I will say...  have you ever had a coworker who somehow made everyone else better at their jobs just by being around?  I have, and it's awesome.  I assume that can happen in baseball, too, and I suppose it's possible that Odor is one of those types of people.

[Mike B]

Yeah iy does feel like the Gunnar promotion is imminent. Probably Westburg and Stowers too.

My son has been saying August 24th for Stowers and Henderson for a few weeks.  Evidently, if a player is called up with less than 45 days left in the season, it does not start the service clock.  

[TwentyThirtyFive]

I will say...  have you ever had a coworker who somehow made everyone else better at their jobs just by being around?  I have, and it's awesome.  I assume that can happen in baseball, too, and I suppose it's possible that Odor is one of those types of people.

Dude says we should be paying AJ like 15 this year to do that

[Mike in STL]

Backup first base is easily replaceable hence why four guys can practice it and quickly be ready to step in if needed.

Cause they are quickly going to promote these guys right? 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Not so fast, Gunnar.

 

Andy Kostka@afkostka·

 

Anthony Santander went through a pretty serious workout at first base just now. He said he feels good, although he doesn’t have any idea when/if he’ll play that in a game itself

[Nigel Tufnel]

Dude says we should be paying AJ like 15 this year to do that

 

Coincidence that everything immediately went to crap once the pies were outlawed?  I think not.

[You Play to Win the Game]

I'm sure they're not just going through the motions, but can't help but wonder too if this is in part designed to light a fire under Mountcastle. Can't even really bench him now - but now he knows soon they can and will.

[Mike B]

Not so fast, Gunnar.

 

Andy Kostka@afkostka·

 

Anthony Santander went through a pretty serious workout at first base just now. He said he feels good, although he doesn’t have any idea when/if he’ll play that in a game itself

I played first base in an old mans soft ball league.  I better keep my phone on, in case they call.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

I feel like Ive read Santander has been taking reps at 1b for over a month now. Seriously

[BobPhelan]

Cause they are quickly going to promote these guys right?

Three of them are already on the team and the other will be next week so… yes?

[BobPhelan]

My son has been saying August 24th for Stowers and Henderson for a few weeks. Evidently, if a player is called up with less than 45 days left in the season, it does not start the service clock.

It starts the service clock but if you have less than 45 days on the active roster and/or less than 130 at bats you are rookie eligible. So if he comes up Tuesday that leaves 43 days left in the season so if he starts 2023 on the opening day roster he can earn the team a draft pick by finishing in the top 3 in RoY voting.

[Pedro Cerrano]

It starts the service clock but if you have less than 45 days on the active roster and/or less than 130 at bats you are rookie eligible. So if he comes up Tuesday that leaves 43 days left in the season so if he starts 2023 on the opening day roster he can earn the team a draft pick by finishing in the top 3 in RoY voting.

Good info. Thx. Your MiLB is sure better than your taste in films!

[You Play to Win the Game]

It starts the service clock but if you have less than 45 days on the active roster and/or less than 130 at bats you are rookie eligible. So if he comes up Tuesday that leaves 43 days left in the season so if he starts 2023 on the opening day roster he can earn the team a draft pick by finishing in the top 3 in RoY voting.

But if he starts next year OD in Baltimore, then after next season, we'd only have 4 years of control? Or still 5? Wouldn't we still need to find a way to recoup those 43 days in order to not come up short? Thanks for all the info.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

Not so fast, Gunnar.

 

Andy Kostka@afkostka·

 

Anthony Santander went through a pretty serious workout at first base just now. He said he feels good, although he doesn’t have any idea when/if he’ll play that in a game itself

....and what did I say!

[Nigel Tufnel]

I think you'd lose the 7th year of control, but potentially gain a draft pick (assuming he's top 3 ROY).

[TwentyThirtyFive]

But if he starts next year OD in Baltimore, then after next season, we'd only have 4 years of control? Or still 5? Wouldn't we still need to find a way to recoup those 43 days in order to not come up short? Thanks for all the info.

We would still have 5 after next year

[You Play to Win the Game]

We would still have 5 after next year

He wouldn't be 43 days shy of 5 after a full year next year?

[Mike B]

It starts the service clock but if you have less than 45 days on the active roster and/or less than 130 at bats you are rookie eligible. So if he comes up Tuesday that leaves 43 days left in the season so if he starts 2023 on the opening day roster he can earn the team a draft pick by finishing in the top 3 in RoY voting.

Thanks Bob!

I think, it will be Tuesday or later then.  I think it is pretty clear that while they might like to succeed this year, they are not going to do anything at a cost going forward.

[Nigel Tufnel]

He wouldn't be 43 days shy of 5 after a full year next year?

 

You get 6 years of control.  If he spent all of 2023 on the ML roster, then that's 1 year.  Then you'd have control for 5 more years after that, and the 43 days in 2022 wouldn't matter.

 

The service time game is when you call someone up midway through their first year, so they can spend like 3/4 of the season on the ML roster, but it doesn't count toward the 6 years of control. 

 

But, yeah, if they wanted to play the service time game with him, then 43 days on the ML roster in 2022 would mean that you have to wait 43 additional days in 2023 before you call him up, so maybe you'd only get like 90 games in 2023 (I think).

[TwentyThirtyFive]

He wouldn't be 43 days shy of 5 after a full year next year?

You need 6 full years begore you become a FA. Its why teams wait til late Apr when they essentially steal the first year from a player