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#321 BobPhelan

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 12:24 PM

But he doesn't at all care about winning at the major league level, and that alone justifies the tanking label for me. I do think he values top 5 picks. He wants to stack as many blue chip prospects as possible before the expectations come.


I think that flip switches as soon as this season ends. Not saying we’ll have a .500 record next year but that thinking ends.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 12:26 PM


I think that flip switches as soon as this season ends. Not saying we’ll have a .500 record next year but that thinking ends.

It needs to. I'm over it. And if it doesn't switch, I'm done giving them the benefit of the doubt for the longterm. Have some guts and give a damn, it's the right thing to do.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 12:29 PM


I think that flip switches as soon as this season ends. Not saying we’ll have a .500 record next year but that thinking ends.

Right. I think it ends too but if youre just judging on FA spending you wont agree
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Posted 26 September 2021 - 12:44 PM

Right. I think it ends too but if youre just judging on FA spending you wont agree


Agreed.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 01:37 PM

I think they'll be in tank mode forever.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 01:40 PM

What else would we possibly judge that by if not FA (or trade) acquisitions.

There are 5+ gaping holes on the roster. 3 infield spots, 3+ rotation spots, and almost the entire bullpen. If we fill multiple holes with some real players making a modest to average amount of money, that's awesome and signals that ownership and management care about the win total.

If we fill them all with Harvey and Galvis type vets and give fringe prospects like Akin or worse guys like Lopez a spot before ST, then it's clear they don't care about the 2022 win total.
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Posted 26 September 2021 - 01:44 PM

I don't mind Galvis types, he isn't horrible. Franco was a wildcard.... he could've been OK but obviously ended up terrible.

Trying to fill the rotation with guys like Felix Hernandez, Matt Harvey, Sidney Ponson (I joke) and Jorge Lopez is beyond awful.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 01:51 PM

I don't mind Galvis types, he isn't horrible. Franco was a wildcard.... he could've been OK but obviously ended up terrible.

Trying to fill the rotation with guys like Felix Hernandez, Matt Harvey, Sidney Ponson (I joke) and Jorge Lopez is beyond awful.

 

I don't mind these guys either for any one spot, but you can't fill ALL the spots with players like this and then go out and say that you actually care about winning games.  You either need to actually try to not be terrible or you need to take the criticism when people fairly call you out for not trying to win.



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Posted 26 September 2021 - 08:41 PM

What else would we possibly judge that by if not FA (or trade) acquisitions.

There are 5+ gaping holes on the roster. 3 infield spots, 3+ rotation spots, and almost the entire bullpen. If we fill multiple holes with some real players making a modest to average amount of money, that's awesome and signals that ownership and management care about the win total.

If we fill them all with Harvey and Galvis type vets and give fringe prospects like Akin or worse guys like Lopez a spot before ST, then it's clear they don't care about the 2022 win total.


This.

The argument that they're trying to win even if they don't add much of anything in free agency / trades would make some sense if they didn't have glaring holes, but as you point out, they have several. If one is bullish on internal improvement, how could that person also justify not supplementing that projected improvement in the incredibly obvious spots that need help?

So to me, even if they get some improvement from those already in the organization, it's still tanking if they do nothing of note to give those guys a real chance at winning.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 08:50 PM

This.

The argument that they're trying to win even if they don't add much of anything in free agency / trades would make some sense if they didn't have glaring holes, but as you point out, they have several. If one is bullish on internal improvement, how could that person also justify not supplementing that projected improvement in the incredibly obvious spots that need help?

So to me, even if they get some improvement from those already in the organization, it's still tanking if they do nothing of note to give those guys a real chance at winning.


I can see them signing or trading for 1-2 infielders and 1-2 starting pitchers.

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Posted 26 September 2021 - 09:20 PM

I can see them signing or trading for 1-2 infielders and 1-2 starting pitchers.

I could too, but I think the type. I see them signing is probably different form the type you see.

 

Signing guys like Harvey or King Felix is not going to move the needle.  

 

Their motto, this off season, should be DO NOT lose 110 games ever again.


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Posted 26 September 2021 - 10:02 PM

I could too, but I think the type. I see them signing is probably different form the type you see.

Signing guys like Harvey or King Felix is not going to move the needle.

Their motto, this off season, should be DO NOT lose 110 games ever again.

But instead they've already been trying to rally public support to mail it in again with "where we are in the process". 🤮

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Posted 24 January 2022 - 08:22 AM

Balt Sun: Oriole of the Day: Keegan Akin’s roller-coaster 2021 season makes his place in rotation uncertain



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Posted 24 January 2022 - 11:19 AM

Balt Sun: Oriole of the Day: Keegan Akin’s roller-coaster 2021 season makes his place in rotation uncertain

So far Akin is the big tease.   For the most part, he has not been good, but then he has a small stretch where he pitches well.

 

I think he will always have too many 30 pitch innings, and be a 4 or 5 inning pitcher at best.


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Posted 10 April 2022 - 08:08 AM



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Posted 15 April 2022 - 06:26 AM

Balt Sun: For Orioles’ Keegan Akin, a new mindset has breathed life into the start of his season: ‘Just attack’



#337 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 17 April 2022 - 05:14 PM

Two outings so far: 

 

5.2 ip, 2 hits, 0 er, 0 bb's, 4 k's



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Posted 30 April 2022 - 08:12 AM

4/29: 

 

2.2 ip, 1 hit, 0 er, 0 bb's, 2 k's.... 37 pitches, 31 strikes

 

Season: 

 

14.1 ip, 6 hits, 2 er, 2 bb's, 9 k's, 1 hr


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Posted 03 June 2022 - 08:43 AM

MASN: Akin relishing role that's bringing him records

https://www.masnspor...ing-him-records



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Posted 10 August 2022 - 09:47 AM

2022: 

 

30 games... 

 

61 innings, 44 hits, 9 hr's, 14 bb's, 52 k's

 

LHH .327 OPS

RHH .778 OPS

 

4 seam was 92 last year as a starter... 93.5 this year in relief. 

 

30th overall among relievers in WPA.






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