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Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:37 AM
I appreciate the numbers and what they are saying... I personally won't have much of an opinion either way until I see him myself.
Based on everything I've heard to date... I currently feel 2nd is his best position going forward... but I understand what you are saying here.
I don't believe you'll ever have the chance to evaluate Mountcastle as a 2B. I believe, if 3B doesn't work out, that you'll see him next in LF or 1B.
HOF
Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:38 AM
If there is a lot of internal doubt about his ability to play defense, you should look to package him in a trade this offseason.
HOF
Posted 28 November 2017 - 12:44 PM
If there is a lot of internal doubt about his ability to play defense, you should look to package him in a trade this offseason.
Well, if there really is that much consensus by everyone else but us that he can't play the IF who the hell would give up much of anything for him? If there is any light that he can play IF then I thin you have to do what the Orioles are doing imo and exhaust all the valuable IF options until he proves he can't do it. I don't think we're there yet. I'm sure RZ knows his stuff, but it's just amazing to me that a guy drafted as a SS, now has too "weak" of an arm for second base.
Like Chris, I'd really like to see this guy myself.
Posted 28 November 2017 - 02:01 PM
I'm not sure what you mean but I suspect you are in a different hemisphere.
Tim Beckham was a good bat that the Rays couldn't stick in the field because they either had better options or Beckham didn't react well to playing there.
MVP
Posted 28 November 2017 - 10:35 PM
Well, if there really is that much consensus by everyone else but us that he can't play the IF who the hell would give up much of anything for him? If there is any light that he can play IF then I thin you have to do what the Orioles are doing imo and exhaust all the valuable IF options until he proves he can't do it. I don't think we're there yet. I'm sure RZ knows his stuff, but it's just amazing to me that a guy drafted as a SS, now has too "weak" of an arm for second base.
Like Chris, I'd really like to see this guy myself.
That's not exactly what I said. You can play a guy with a weak arm at 2B. Of course, you would hope that he might have plus range or something else going for him. With Mountcastle, you have both a player with limited range and a weak arm. That combination would make him a liability at 2B. I don't know if the Orioles would consider trying him at 2B. From the reports I've read, I would guess not. Obviously, the only way we'll find out is if he fails at 3B and we'd see where they try him next. Obviously 2B is a more preferable and important position than LF or 1B, so you'd think they'd try him there if they thought he might be able to handle it. In fact, most shortstops who don't quite make it there, go from SS to 2B (Brian Roberts/Jerry Hairston/Jon Schoop) so it's curious that Mountcastle went from SS to 3B instead. Some will argue that it's because of Manny leaving but I think it has just as much to do with what I've been talking about.
HOF
Posted 28 November 2017 - 11:07 PM
Well, if there really is that much consensus by everyone else but us that he can't play the IF who the hell would give up much of anything for him? If there is any light that he can play IF then I thin you have to do what the Orioles are doing imo and exhaust all the valuable IF options until he proves he can't do it. I don't think we're there yet. I'm sure RZ knows his stuff, but it's just amazing to me that a guy drafted as a SS, now has too "weak" of an arm for second base.
Like Chris, I'd really like to see this guy myself.
HOF
Posted 29 November 2017 - 03:04 PM
OK, so I gathering RZ is saying his arm isn't weak for second but it isn't strong enough to compensate for his lack of range there. Anecdotally I did fin a picture of him in a Bowie uniform and he does look pretty chunky. Makes sense why they might look at him at third base base before second base.
As far as trading him, just makes no sense to me with all the questions surrounding him defensively and offensively a this point. Might as well let things play out in Bowie this year, offensively and defensively.
HOF
Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:10 PM
OK, so I gathering RZ is saying his arm isn't weak for second but it isn't strong enough to compensate for his lack of range there. Anecdotally I did fin a picture of him in a Bowie uniform and he does look pretty chunky. Makes sense why they might look at him at third base base before second base.
As far as trading him, just makes no sense to me with all the questions surrounding him defensively and offensively a this point. Might as well let things play out in Bowie this year, offensively and defensively.
Owner
Posted 29 November 2017 - 09:20 PM
There isn't anyone outside the Orioles organization (and maybe even in the Orioles organization) who mentions that as a possibility. The BA Handbook for 2017 said his most likely destinations are LF or 1B. An interesting thing to say about a player who was currently a SS. The reasons are obvious. Yes, you can hide a weak arm at 2B but it is still a minus. Without his bazooka, Schoop would be a below average 2B. Mountcastle, most likely, would have even less range than Schoop and an arm on the other end of the scale.
FWIW all 3 of our guys.... Zach, Reggie, and Greg have each mentioned 2nd base for Mountcastle.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 12:10 PM
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:45 PM
God dammit. Mountcastle and Hays are gonna have to be MVP level guys now or else we'll hear all about how Buck ruined them, too, from certain crazy corners of the Orioles world.
HOF
Posted 13 March 2018 - 05:35 PM
What is the organization going to do to support/ reinforce this? Otherwise it's just a few nice quotes and a little ass chewing. I want to see the player development focus on plate discipline. Not just talk about it in Oct-Mar every year.Wow...I absolutely love what Buck told Mountcastle.
It surprised me to hear he said it but it was great that he did.
HOF
Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:32 PM
What is the organization going to do to support/ reinforce this? Otherwise it's just a few nice quotes and a little ass chewing. I want to see the player development focus on plate discipline. Not just talk about it in Oct-Mar every year.
HOF
Posted 15 March 2018 - 03:47 PM
Apparently he broke his hand today.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 05:32 PM
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 05:33 PM
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Posted 04 May 2018 - 01:43 PM
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Posted 11 May 2018 - 04:52 PM
Balt Baseball: Mountcastle’s big season debut
http://www.baltimore...-w-wells-walks/
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