You think Zimmer is only about three seasons away? I'm not doubting his talent but he'll need to spend some serious time refining his secondary pitches if he doesn't want to get stuck in the bullpen.
Then again, college pitchers are almost always no more than three seasons away than anyone else so you're very well likely right in your assessment there.
Giolito is an interesting case to me because of two factors: his injury and the fact that he could simply choose to go to school if a team is not willing to go high overslot for him. Not saying he'd turn down around $4 million, but teams would probably be more reluctant to do so if it severely impacts the quality of the players they could take in the following 9 rounds or so.
I have a feeling if he falls out of the top 10 and doesn't garner the money he could get if he goes to school and comes back in two years then he's likely not to sign. Too big of a risk for me with the new rules in place.
I'm starting to come around on Stroman though - I wouldn't mind if the O's took him with the #4 pick if Gausman and Appel are both off the board.
Aside from Stroman's amazing attitude and willing to do what it takes, there's this:
Fastball: 92-97 mph
Slider: 79-87 mph
Changeup: 78-84 mph
Cutter: 84-91 mph
Yeah, year 1, high A, year 2, AA, year 3 AAA is pretty much the normal path for a college SP. Look at Wright, not even a first rounder and he's in AA his first year. AA is the real deciding level though.
Yeah Nick thinks Gio is going to want $5m which is just below the #3 spot, but if he would take $4.2 that puts him right in the O's lap. Kid has a ceiling up there near Bundy though. I think if he falls past #5 he goes to UCLA and gets the #1 spot when he comes out, UCLA is a good pitching school to go to.
I've seen Stroman's stuff first hand, it's NASTY, and if he decides on a pitch to throw in on RH he's going to be unhittable. He's got a curve he's working on that is fall out of the box nasty.