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#22
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:11 PM
#23
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:17 PM
Maybe the Orioles will develop a guy like him before I die.
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#24
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:21 PM
#25
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:35 PM
Hamilton 2nd
Matusz 5,914th
#26
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:37 PM
Well I hear Linda Ronstadt is looking for a guitar player.
#27
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:46 PM
I wouldn't put too much weight on the Angels record pre- and post-Trout for my vote. I think his numbers are great, but he hasn't been as good as Hamilton at the plate, even with the time he's missed. When you factor in position and the steals, it's definitely closer, but I'd still give the nod to Hamilton.
#28
Posted 02 July 2012 - 02:50 PM
Mine is for Hamilton.
I wouldn't put too much weight on the Angels record pre- and post-Trout for my vote. I think his numbers are great, but he hasn't been as good as Hamilton at the plate, even with the time he's missed. When you factor in position and the steals, it's definitely closer, but I'd still give the nod to Hamilton.
The improvement is undeniable though, Mack. I know they fired Mickey Hatcher at the same time, and Pujols was struggling as well, but they've been they best team in Baseball since Trout was recalled.
You certainly can't go wrong with Hamilton, but Trout has to be in the conversation, and that in itself is really impressive.
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#29
Posted 09 July 2012 - 03:51 PM
#30
Posted 17 July 2012 - 09:23 PM
OPS just under 1000.
Best player in baseball.
#31
Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:02 PM
#32
Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:51 PM
4-6 for Trout tonight...opposite field homer of 442 feet.
OPS just under 1000.
Best player in baseball.
He really is absolutely crazy good. I'm amazed watching him play.
@AdamWolff
#33
Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:15 AM
Through May 4: 27 G, 108 AB, .194/.237/.269/.505, 0 HR, 5 RBI, 6 BB, 15 K
After May 4: 64 G, 241 AB, .324/.399/.585/.984, 16 HR, 51 RBI, 30 BB, 26 K
Overall: 91 G, 349 AB, .278/.344/.481/.826, 16 HR, 56 RBI, 36 BB, 41 K
So much for that killer slump.
Overall, his WAR is only 2.7, certainly not worth the overall money they are paying him (1 WAR is generally thought to be worth about $5M, so he's only worth about $13.5M so far this year). His contract gives him an average of $24M over the 10 playing years, plus $1M per year for the following 10 years on a personal services contract.
However, his contract is severely back-loaded, so he's actually only getting $12M this year, meaning he's outplayed this year of his contract.
Of course he's unlikely to maintain his current abilities for all 10 years, so they need him to play better in the earlier years, but the way he's hitting now, he's got a shot to be worth close to 5 WAR at year's end.
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#34
Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:03 PM
4-6 for Trout tonight...opposite field homer of 442 feet.
OPS just under 1000.
Best player in baseball.
Crazy, and it doesn't even appear close right now.
#35
Posted 23 July 2012 - 02:41 PM
Crazy, and it doesn't even appear close right now.
I disagree with you guys. Maybe if I were choosing a player based on his age/talent combo Trout would be my top choice. But I don't think he's the best player in baseball on talent alone.
Kemp, McCutchen, Votto, Braun, and Pujols are all in the running. And Verlander, Weaver, and maybe Kershaw and Cain too.
To say that Trout is the most exciting, the best young player, even a top 5 talent, I agree with completely.
But if we're drafting on talent alone, I'd probably still take Kemp.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition, from Moses to Sandy Koufax..."
-Walter Sobchak
#36
Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:22 AM
#37
Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:32 AM
#38
Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:09 PM
Some analyst I forget who said it, said you should reverse the backloaded contracts in terms of logic which I think is a good idea. Think of Pujols as making $20+ million this year and making $12 million in his final year.However, his contract is severely back-loaded, so he's actually only getting $12M this year, meaning he's outplayed this year of his contract.
#39
Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:23 PM
#40
Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:55 AM
I could be his Dad, but I sort of have a man crush on him..
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Funny to look at this thread now and see the Hamilton over Trout for MVP talk a few months ago.
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