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#61 SportsGuy

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:13 PM

..and, more importantly, is not hitched to a major media market.

Duke bball is a major media market all by itself.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:14 PM

..and, more importantly, is not hitched to a major media market.


It's a solid and growing market, but they aren't the prize of that market.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:15 PM

Duke bball is a major media market all by itself.

Major media market? They are a national power. I believe the UNC has more of the landscape in the area, but Duke does better nationally.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:22 PM

Major media market? They are a national power. I believe the UNC has more of the landscape in the area, but Duke does better nationally.


Any of the major NC schools would likely get the market in terms of cable subscriptions, which is what is most important.

Ratings wise, Duke is great for basketball and horrible for football, which is the more important sport obviously.

UNC is clearly more desirable than is Duke and NC State may even be more desirable. But a package deal may be necessary anyway as has been discussed.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:24 PM

Major media market? They are a national power. I believe the UNC has more of the landscape in the area, but Duke does better nationally.

Yeah. UNC is a Carolina school. Duke is a New Jersey school :P

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:57 PM

Lost in all this talk about how they did it for the money. They are only going to get an extra 7m per year not 24, since the ACC/ESPN deal was to start paying 17m per season next year.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:30 AM

ESPN: Terps leave ACC in a bind

http://espn.go.com/b...e-acc-in-a-bind

Maryland -- much like its quarterbacks this year -- will be replaced.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:35 AM

ESPN: The realignment cycle's next spin

http://espn.go.com/c...aryland-big-ten
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:35 AM

The Washington Post: Big Ten alumni groups in D.C. area greet Maryland with enthusiasm

http://www.washingto...49ee_story.html

Illinois: 8,000

Indiana: 10,750

Iowa: 5,477

Michigan: 15,000

Michigan State: 10,500

Minnesota: 4,000

Nebraska: 1,300

Northwestern: 5,000

Ohio State: 9,400

Penn State: 12,000

Purdue: 1,678

Wisconsin: 8,490

Northwestern University officials could not provide alumni estimates Monday.

Total: 91,595


http://www.washingto...6cc9_story.html
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:27 AM

Andy Katz reporting that Louisville may be more likely than UCONN to go ACC.

I think the ACC ends up with both.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:28 AM

Major media market? They are a national power. I believe the UNC has more of the landscape in the area, but Duke does better nationally.

Duke is the team that every network wants on as much as possible.

Why do you think there games against crap teams are always on, while MD is on ESPN3?

Whether its the ESPN stations, CBS, TNT or whoever...they want Duke on TV because they bring in the best ratings. Its just how it is.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:32 AM

Boise St, San Diego St, and BYU talking to MWC to return:
http://espn.go.com/c... ... ources-say

If they do, that would kiss Big East football goodbye.


There are a bunch of schools in the Big East and ACC that are not in a great position going forward.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:37 AM

Lost in all this talk about how they did it for the money. They are only going to get an extra 7m per year not 24, since the ACC/ESPN deal was to start paying 17m per season next year.


Don't think you are looking at this right:
http://sportsillustr...oney/index.html

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

Duke is the team that every network wants on as much as possible.

Why do you think there games against crap teams are always on, while MD is on ESPN3?

Whether its the ESPN stations, CBS, TNT or whoever...they want Duke on TV because they bring in the best ratings. Its just how it is.

That doesn't make them a "major media market," it makes them a good draw.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

There are a bunch of schools in the Big East and ACC that are not in a great position going forward.

Just combine those leagues with what will remain of those two leagues and form their own superconference?
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:53 AM

There are a bunch of schools in the Big East and ACC that are not in a great position going forward.


2013 and 2014 Big East
East Division
UCF
Cincinnati
Connecticut
Louisville
Rutgers
USF

West Division
Boise State
Houston
Memphis
San Diego State
SMU
Temple

If they lose Boise State, and San Diego State, they lose their divisional format. If UConn or Louisville (or both?) leave with Rutgers, the remaining football members are:

UCF
Cincinnati
USF
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Temple

What if the ACC was quickly poached? What if Clemson and FSU jump to the Big 12? The new ACC could look like:

UConn
BC
Pittsburgh
Louisville
NCST
Wake Forest

Virgina
Virgina Tech
UNC
Duke
Georgia Tech
Miami

With Notre Dame.

The issue that would develop for the ACC, is if in addition to MD, Clemson, and FSU - they lost two more schools. If any other two schools were to jump (to the Big 10, or SEC), then you would have major problems filling spots.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:57 AM

Big thing is these leagues need to remain at 12 teams for the conference championship game. The ACC tried to get a waiver that year they had 11 and failed.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:17 AM

Remember that, to be a qualified DI football league, you need 8 all-sports members. That's going to be tough for the Big East to keep if Rutgers goes to the Big Ten (likely), and one (or two) of UConn or Louisville head to the ACC (likely).

They would be left with the following all-sports members:
Cincinnati
Temple
South Florida
Central Florida
Southern Methodist
Houston
Memphis
(UConn/Louisville)

You know that the basketball schools are fed up with adding universities to solely aid football (see: SMU, UH, UCF). They're not going to want to continue to expand to appease the above schools solely because they are in the same conference because it dilutes basketball. None of the teams above are "allies" with the Catholic schools. Those colleges (Pitt, Cuse, Notre Dame) are long gone.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:34 AM

That doesn't make them a "major media market," it makes them a good draw.

You are taking the comment too literally.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:45 PM

CBS Sports: Florida State president calls ACC 'strong' but says he'll watch Terps' exit-fee fight

http://www.cbssports...exit-fee-fight-
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