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#21 BSLRoseKatz

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:03 AM

I think they're more likely to get a real starter from a trade than free agency just based on the fact that we know they have prospects to move and we don't know if they'll ever go above 10M AAV for a free agency. Zero percent chance the Brewers extend Corbin Burnes and he has one year left so I'd imagine the Brewers will be fielding calls about him and the Orioles should certainly be on the phone.    



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:05 AM

And for Hall and Wells I think both in the bullpen is ideal. Your rotation from there is Grayson, Bradish, Means, Kremer and external option who is actually better than Kyle Gibson. That seems like the best way to distribute the pitching resources between the rotation and the bullpen.



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:07 AM

Again, hes likely priced himself out of Baltimore but Jordan Montgomery is the perfect target.

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:38 AM

If they add a legit starter and he's a righty, they should bring in the wall some. I'd like it to be brought in some regardless, but if our top 3 starters are righties and we have some righty pop, the wall doesn't seem to make much sense in the short-term. I don't want more playoff series' where the wall advantages the other team.

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:39 AM

If they add a legit starter and he's a righty, they should bring in wall some. I'd like it to be brought in some regardless, but if our top 3 starters are righties and we have some righty pop, the wall doesn't seem to make much sense in the short-term. I don't want more playoff series' where the wall advantages the other team.

 

Yeah the fact that they had basically the same home and road record I think raises some question about the wall's value to how this roster is constructed 



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:51 AM

Having the wall as drastic as it is has to have some impact on guys like Hays, Mountcastle, Adley and Santander as RH, Westburg. You've also got Mayo and Ortiz to think about, though Ortiz doesn't figure to be a HR guy.

Not saying they need to revert to pre 2022, but should be able to find a happy medium.

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:55 AM

If they add a legit starter and he's a righty, they should bring in wall some. I'd like it to be brought in some regardless, but if our top 3 starters are righties and we have some righty pop, the wall doesn't seem to make much sense in the short-term. I don't want more playoff series' where the wall advantages the other team.

Thats why I think a non-platoon lefty like Bellinger, a switch hitter good from both sides like Santana is important. 

 

It will take time, but you really could use it as a home field advantage if you build your lineup right. 


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Posted 11 October 2023 - 12:00 PM

Don’t mess with the wall. RH-heavy lineups would love for the O’s to bring the wall in. 


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Posted 11 October 2023 - 12:06 PM

Didn't seem to help Irvin much. Guess we'll see what it does for a healthy Means. I don't have much hope for Povich.

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 01:26 PM

It's not crapping on Adley to say he had a terrible series because he absolutely did.


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#31 Mike B

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 01:43 PM

Again, hes likely priced himself out of Baltimore but Jordan Montgomery is the perfect target.

I wanted him at the deadline and still think he is the right guy for the Orioles.   At some point,  the organization is going to have to pay one of these guys.  

I wanted Montgomery and Jordan Hicks at the deadline.  I would hope they would pursue both.


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Posted 11 October 2023 - 01:43 PM

It's not crapping on Adley to say he had a terrible series because he absolutely did.

It was 3 games.  He will learn form the experience and get better.


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Posted 11 October 2023 - 02:15 PM

Rotation next year needs to start with Bradish, Means, GRod. At least another arm in that realm and really two. Just not sold in Kremer. He just can't get guys out.



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 02:23 PM

Rotation next year needs to start with Bradish, Means, GRod. 

 

I think everyone expects this to happen - it's the other two arms that get tricky.



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 02:29 PM

I think everyone expects this to happen - it's the other two arms that get tricky.

In other words nobody trusts the FO to do their dang job.



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 02:40 PM

In other words nobody trusts the FO to do their dang job.

Not in the way they could or should. But I place that at the feet of the Angelos family, not Elias.


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Posted 11 October 2023 - 03:03 PM

  • Blake Snell, Padres
  • Marcus Stroman, Cubs ($21 million player option)
  • Aaron Nola, Phillies
  • Yoshinobu Yamamoto, NPB
  • Clayton Kershaw, Dodgers
  • Eduardo Rodriguez, Tigers (player opt-out available)
  • Sonny Gray, Twins
  • Hyun Jin Ryu, Blue Jays
  • Charlie Morton, Braves ($20 million club option)
  • Jordan Montgomery, Rangers
  • Kyle Hendricks, Cubs ($16 million club option)
  • Alex Cobb, Giants ($10 million club option)
  • Mike Clevinger, White Sox ($12 million mutual option)
  • Michael Wacha, Padres ($16 million mutual option)
  • Wade Miley, Brewers ($10 million mutual option)
  • Seth Lugo, Padres ($7.5 million player option)
  • Martín Pérez, Rangers
  • Lance Lynn, Dodgers ($18 million club option)
  • Lucas Giolito, Guardians
  • Kenta Maeda, Twins
  • Michael Lorenzen, Phillies
  • Tyler Mahle, Twins

No excuse for this team to not sign at least one of those guys.

Stay tuned



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 03:16 PM

In other words nobody trusts the FO to do their dang job.

 

Huh?  Everyone expects the FO to bring back the top three guys.  Isn't that part of their job?  And the uncertainty about the other two spots is mostly about the number of options and the frugality of the Angelos family, and not that the FO of a 101-win team is incompetent.



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Posted 11 October 2023 - 04:21 PM

Bradish
Means
Rodriguez
Trade Target
Kremer/Wells/Hall/Irvin/etc

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Posted 11 October 2023 - 04:30 PM

Bradish
Means
Rodriguez
Trade Target
Kremer/Wells/Hall/Irvin/etc

Who is the trade target? What are the giving up?


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