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[Mike in STL]

Sad for Felix.

O's need to add a high leverage reliever this Winter.
Plenty of resources available to obtain. No reason to only go in-house.

Draft
Develop
Replenish
Rinse
Repeat

Have they not developed enough arms the last four years?
Is it time to trade Adley to replenish?

[BSLChrisStoner]

Draft
Develop
Replenish
Rinse
Repeat

Have they not developed enough arms the last four years?
Is it time to trade Adley to replenish?

Mike, you really want to talk baseball given your consistent thoughts since Elias took over?

 

By design they haven't drafted many arms. 

They do have a system that's deep, and part of depth can be utilized to acquire. 

 

Or they can trade Hays and Santander for pieces. 

 

Not time yet to trade Adley,  I hope they do that after '25.
Do expect he'll be extended. 

 

[Mike in STL]

Mike, you really want to talk baseball given your consistent thoughts since Elias took over?

By design they haven't drafted many arms.

They do have a system that's deep, and part of depth can be utilized to acquire.

Or they can trade Hays and Santander for pieces.

Not time yet to trade Adley, I hope they do that after '25.
Do expect he'll be extended.

Yes, I really do. Is that okay with you?

Sorry not sorry for my thoughts on things like losing on purpose. Giving up and telling the world they aren’t good enough when in a playoff race. Assuming people like us only look at the back of baseball cards.

I’m pleasantly surprised by the results this year. Credit where credit is due.

Do think that more trades for guys like Fuji and Cano will result in more Fujis and less Canos.

Winning isn’t easy. You seem to think that the DDRRR method is all you need. But now what we have isn’t enough. Shocking.

[BSLChrisStoner]

Yes, I really do. Is that okay with you?

Sorry not sorry for my thoughts on things like losing on purpose. Giving up and telling the world they aren’t good enough when in a playoff race. Assuming people like us only look at the back of baseball cards.

I’m pleasantly surprised by the results this year. Credit where credit is due.

Do think that more trades for guys like Fuji and Cano will result in more Fujis and less Canos.

Winning isn’t easy. You seem to think that the DDRRR method is all you need. But now what we have isn’t enough. Shocking.

As I answered you yesterday... winning is not easy. 
 

And if you aren't spending as you could, you are operating with one hand tied. 

But if you are going to operate that way, it requires some moves people might not like. 

They can win with what they have, but they should have obtained a high leverage pen arm at this deadline before Felix was lost.
They didn't, that was a mistake, even if they win it all. 
Him being gone next year will be an issue.  I hope they address it. 

 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

If they target one position in FA where they shop at the top or near the top of the market it has to be RP. I mean sure Id love them to be in on say Nola. That just is a total pipedream. Being in on Hader isnt quite as big a pipedream. Even if not in on say Hader they have to find a vet closer and likely 1 other BP arm through FA or trade. Guys you plan to plug immediately into high lev roles.

[Mike in STL]

As I answered you yesterday... winning is not easy.

And if you aren't spending as you could, you are operating with one hand tied.

But if you are going to operate that way, it requires some moves people might not like.

They can win with what they have, but they should have obtained a high leverage pen arm at this deadline before Felix was lost.
They didn't, that was a mistake, even if they win it all.
Him being gone next year will be an issue. I hope they address it.

I agree with all of that. Except ownership should be taken to task for how they operate instead of given the passes you give them.

I’m under the impression that you think draft and development leads to replenishment and that’s good enough. Because that’s the way they are choosing to operate and that’s the pass you give them as business owners. If I’m missing something, misunderstanding, I apologize.

[CantonJester]

Bautista named the unanimous AL Reliever of the Year.

 

Had he not blown out his elbow and finished the season strong, my guess is he would've garnered a bunch of CYA votes.