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[Pedro Cerrano]

Another bust. Guy stinks.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Has to figure out a better pitch mix. He got away with essentially just a fastball initially. Now teams are taking it away. Go down and work on the secondaries.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Shouldn’t they have figured all this out already.

[BobPhelan]

Shouldn’t they have figured all this out already.

He figured out how to dominate AAA hitters. Majors is a huge jump.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Shouldn’t they have figured all this out already.

AAA to ML is such a big jump. Its only the elite. So no, its very understandable why you just do what works until you face adversity and are forced to change. There is a reason why numerous players break in struggle and take time to get back and become a legit ML caliber player. It should be expected tbh but its not. People remember the Julio Rodriguez and Acunas and Spencer Striders of the world and forget about the many times more guys who take lumps. Sometimes big lumps.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Massive lumps. He will be a back end starter and get by on name only.

[BobPhelan]

Look at Corbin Burnes first season in a half. We just got dominated by Mitch Keller who finally seems to have figured it out. Nobody is happy about tonight’s performance but it’s not the end of the world.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

This is all fine to say now but people need to be called out and held accountable for nonsense said when they are wrong. Even in frustration. There is no doubt in my mind Pedro believes what he is saying. So in 2 or 3 years he should have to eat all the crow when GRod is a solid #2 or even #3 starter. Let alone an ace.

[DuffMan]

Another bust. Guy stinks

[BaltBird 24]

Would be nice if the Orioles could have just one highly touted pitching prospect come up and look like they at least belong.

It's disheartening to say the least.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Would be nice if the Orioles could have just one highly touted pitching prospect come up and look like they at least belong.

It's disheartening to say the least.

Too early to get discouraged. Give him 4-5 years geez

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Would be nice if the Orioles could have just one highly touted pitching prospect come up and look like they at least belong.

It's disheartening to say the least.

Easy to say now. Today. Plenty would argue that despite the results not being ideal he looked like he belonged before today. Its just such an easy statment to make after today.

[BaltBird 24]

4 good starts. 1 OK start. 1 bad start. 2 terrible starts. Got roughed up by historically bad Oakland and very bad KC team.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

But the lack of quality secondaries has been apparent from pretty much the jump. The fastball will play so much better once he improved the secondaries. If he can improve the secondaries. IMO its not something you try to figure out up here. Call up Irvin. I dont care about the results for Rodriguez at AAA. Just have him working on reshaping and improving his secondary pitches.

[BobPhelan]

But the lack of quality secondaries has been apparent from pretty much the jump. The fastball will play so much better once he improved the secondaries. If he can improve the secondaries. IMO its not something you try to figure out up here. Call up Irvin. I dont care about the results for Rodriguez at AAA. Just have him working on reshaping and improving his secondary pitches.

The secondaries are fine they’re just inconsistent and he needs to command them better (obviously).

[You Play to Win the Game]

Too early to get discouraged. Give him 4-5 years geez

Which team do you think Grayson will win his Cy Young with?

If it were a prop that IF Gray Rod were to win a Cy Young, would it be with Baltimore? It’d probably be something like yes +2500, no -3500. Maybe even longer.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

The secondaries are fine they’re just inconsistent and he needs to command them better (obviously).

I disagree. The changeup is a plus at times. Hes flashed that in a few starts but has been inconsistent at best with it. I dislike the curve, slider, cutter mix after that. IMO they all need work. Real work.

[NewMarketSean]

This is all fine to say now but people need to be called out and held accountable for nonsense said when they are wrong. Even in frustration. There is no doubt in my mind Pedro believes what he is saying. So in 2 or 3 years he should have to eat all the crow when GRod is a solid #2 or even #3 starter. Let alone an ace.

Can we do this for the stuff you say too? 
 

Or is that somehow not allowed?

[NewMarketSean]

He has no out pitch. Or at least hasn’t gotten it to work at MLB level. Reminds me of Tillman in that aspect. At this point I’d be thrilled for him to have a Tillmanesque career.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Which team do you think Grayson will win his Cy Young with?

If it were a prop that IF Gray Rod were to win a Cy Young, would it be with Baltimore? It’d probably be something like yes +2500, no -3500. Maybe even longer.

There is *zero* chance he wins a Cy Young here. I could see him going to San Francisco or something and turning it around. Gausman style.