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#1861 BSLSteveBirrer

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Posted 16 June 2023 - 07:56 AM

Some overall thoughts on what transpired yesterday.

 

1. US vs Mexico

a, The US is just way better than Mexico right now. They were a bit off early especially with their passing but their recovery just gave Mexico zero time to mount any real threat.

b. The entire team played well pretty much top to bottom. Pulisic was on another planet last night (his terrible miss aside). Weah and Dest were line breakers. Musah bossed the midfield. The back four was complimentary of each other. Turner was fine except for one HUGE gaffe in the second half. Up 2-0 you never make that pass in the middle to just outside the box. But then he covered that up with a great stop.

c. So typical of Mexico. I really dislike that program and last night just reinforced years of the same crap. No reason for a professional program to act like thugs. It was abundantly clear once the game got to 2-0 that they were only playing to hurt our guys physically or bait them into getting cards. Unfortunately it worked. Missing McKennie and Dest will hurt on Sunday for sure.

d. Inexcusable ref. He was mostly fine in the first half but needed to pull out the yellows sooner. But THE mistake was the excessive force charge against Reyna. You MUST card that. i don't give a crap that it would have been a second yellow, That was a vicious foul disguised as "going for the ball" with way too much force. Get that player off the field and maybe you get in control. Maybe it still goes badly from there anyway but that started the shit.

2. Berhalter returning

a. Totally disagree with those saying that if they were just going to do that then they should have just renewed him in the first place Flat wrong. They needed to do their due dilifence.

b. Players like Pulisic and Weah publicly saying that they wanted him back had to play a role.

c. Perhaps he was just the best candidate after they went through the process and interviews. Maybe we'll ultimately find out who all they interviewed but we'll never know if any of those were better candidates but weren't interested.

d. The whole equal pay for Men vs Women might well have come into play here. The USSF may simply not have had the cash to pay what it would have taken to get some European top dog.

e. But most important. US fans need to shut the hell up whining about Berhalter all the time. Go read what the rest of the world thinks of his coaching acumen. US fans just want something to whine about (not just soccer). Move past it.

3. US vs Canada

a. The biggest problem losing McKennie and Dest is not that you have to replace them its that you only have 2 days of training with whomever are used and to develop your tactics. For example, lets say Scally starts in place of Dest. Maybe a better defender but not near the attacking threat. With Adams out and now McKennie just who is your box to box midfielder and enforcer? De la Torre is perhaps the best ball handler. Aaronson is the best presser. But neither of those are the physical presence of McKennie,

b. Do they stick with a 4-3-3 and if so who starts up top? Balogun or Pepi? Or do they shock all of us and switch to a 3-5-2 and put Pepi and Balogun up top. Something like thisL

Turner

Scally  /Zimmerman   MRob/Richards

Weah  Musah  Reyna  Pulisic  ARob

Balogun   Pepi

 

The US is better than Canada. Does that mean we automatically win on Sunday? No but we are the better team. And for those who like to say well Canada was first in the group in final WC qualifying - yes thats true but their Xg was way lower than what they actually scored while the US's was higher. Canada is tough no doubt. But they were quite lucky in qualifying. Panama gave them all they could handle last night. At one point Panama had outshot Canada 5-1 but was losing 1-0.

 

US wins the trophy.


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Posted 16 June 2023 - 08:10 AM

This coaching search was supposed to last through the summer and here we are only in mid June and they've decided to go with Berhalter, again



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 09:29 AM

This coaching search was supposed to last through the summer and here we are only in mid June and they've decided to go with Berhalter, again

They interviewed 10 candidates. Not sure what else they were supposed to do. Most fans were bitching it was taking too long. The comment about going through summer was totally based upon waiting till the end of the Euro seasons to they could see whom might be available and interested. Seems they did that.



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 11:01 AM

ESPN: Pulisic shines, Balogun debuts in chaotic U.S. win vs Mexico

https://www.espn.com...-pulisic-shines



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 11:20 AM

End of the day, I don’t think it’s as appealing a job as many seem to believe.



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 12:03 PM

End of the day, I don’t think it’s as appealing a job as many seem to believe.

This is true and much of that has nothing to do with the US. National team jobs are a way different deal than club jobs.



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 03:09 PM

This is true and much of that has nothing to do with the US. National team jobs are a way different deal than club jobs.


I agree overall, national team jobs have coaching challenges that make it more difficult to develop the sort of teamwork and chemistry you need, but despite that come with all the same expectations and pressures to win as club jobs. And as you said, the money may not be as good either. I do think there are additional challenges with the US though, like having many of your players playing for overseas clubs and having to travel greater distances to play during national team windows, and the domestic league being on a completely different calendar than the European leagues.


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Posted 16 June 2023 - 04:22 PM

This team will never fulfill its true potential with Berhalter. I hope I’m wrong but really don’t think so.

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Posted 16 June 2023 - 07:46 PM

Berhalter is a solid B. Hard working and competent. The only reason this is disappointing is knowing there were A caliber guys out there.
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Posted 16 June 2023 - 09:16 PM

It’s not a choice that inspires a lot of optimism. I feel like we may have already seen the ceiling for this team under him, which is pretty good, but not what I’d call great and not the level I imagine many hope to see us for the ‘26 Cup.

 

The points in his favor are that I think we have also seen the floor under him, which is still good enough to compete against many teams, and that the familiarity between him and the players may be a plus in a cycle where we don’t have to qualify and may not be able to play many competitive matches before ‘26.

 

And he obviously has some fence mending to do with Reyna, and of course that’s not all on Berhalter….and despite some other players publicly advocating for him, he may need to build some trust with the team as a whole after allowing an internal matter to become public.



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Posted 16 June 2023 - 09:18 PM

And as for Reyna, just a word of advice…..put down the peroxide.



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Posted 18 June 2023 - 08:23 PM

USA with an early goal. Richards with the header off of a wonderful corner from Reyna. I hope Berhalter is paying attention to what Gio can do to help the team...

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Posted 18 June 2023 - 08:46 PM

Balogungets his 1st with the US, Reyna with another helper put the ball right where it needed to be.

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Posted 18 June 2023 - 10:43 PM

2 for 2 in Nations League tournaments. Now go win the Gold Cup.



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Posted 19 June 2023 - 07:57 AM



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Posted 19 June 2023 - 08:00 AM

CBS Sports: USMNT win their third Concacaf trophy in a row, cementing regional dominance ahead of 2026 World Cup

https://www.cbssport...2026-world-cup/



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Posted 19 June 2023 - 08:38 AM

Berhalter is a solid B. Hard working and competent. The only reason this is disappointing is knowing there were A caliber guys out there.

Which A caliber guys are those? That were truly available AND interested in the job?



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Posted 19 June 2023 - 08:52 AM

My thoughts on last night.

1. US is clearly the dominant team in CONCACAF right now and its not very close. Canada certainly had their chances last night but the result was pretty accurate. Could have seen it more like 3-1 or 4-1 but a comfortable win.

2.The Ref last night did a good job. Didn't put up with any nonsense and was on spot with his cards. Unlike the disaster against Mexico. Last night Canada did a bit of hacking but he shut that right down in the first half. Now certainly they weren't in the same universe of the unacceptable crap Mexico was pulling but overall I thought last nigh was well officiated.

 

Now my game thoughts.

1. Aaronson for McKennie turned out to be a solid move. We missed McKennie's transition to the attack but Aaronson was solid in supporting the back line especially on Canada's left side.

2. Scall was superb in the back against a world class player in Davies. Missed Dest's attacks down the wing but even had Dest been in last night you'd have seen less of that that what he did against Mexico as he would have had to play more defensively to protect against Davies' speed.

3. They did not try and play out of the back much last night. Fantastic. Turner is a superb shot stopper and his aggression in controlling the area has really improved. But he is just not good enough with his feet. Now that said here's a message to Matt. Dude your goals kicks do not in fact should not be kicked as far as you can every time. You over shot our targets every single time and turned goal kicks from a 50-50 ball to more like 80-20 for Canada. Work on this please. You have the foot skill ability to play out of the back but you are too dang slow to see where the ball should go and don't recognize when the opponents are sneaking in to your expected passing lane.

4. Missing two midfield starters in Adams and McKennie hurt a bit but showed we have the depth to cover for inevitable injuries.

5. DAMMIIT why did Gio have to get hurt again? Just plays his way back into the mix and played superbly only to get taken down with another injury.

6. The front 3 is killer.

 

Now most important. Folarian Balogun is a freaking game changer for us. We have never had a #9 that could call for the ball, position correctly for the pass, shield the ball from the defender, and finish with power. What a monster goal.

 

So looking forward to COPA America next summer. We are on the right trajectory.



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Posted 19 June 2023 - 03:32 PM

Does the US have a legit claim to being one of the 10 best teams in the world?? Top 7 even ??

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Posted 19 June 2023 - 03:50 PM

FIFA has them at #13, as of April 6, which feels about right. Maybe they move up a bit if they follow the Nations League title with a Gold Cup win.

 

Their next big opportunity to show how far they've come is next summer in the Copa America, which they get to host (though they don't automatically qualify, they have to finish Top 4 in the next Nations League cycle).






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