Put Manziel on that team and think about it. It's pretty solid then.Wow: Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 6m All-Pro teams announced today. Teams with most All-Pros: KC, SF and CLEV, each with five. So Browns job might actually be good one.Nah, it's not. They have a good young TE, WR, CB and two good lineman. No QB though. And a terrible front office.

Cleveland Browns
#101
Posted 03 January 2014 - 01:53 PM
@fuzydunlop
#102
Posted 03 January 2014 - 01:54 PM
Put Manziel on that team and think about it. It's pretty solid then.
I'm so torn on Manziel as a pro. Really think he could be either very good, or completely incompatible. I'll let the scouts figure that one out. Seems most are high on him, but I'm just not convinced.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
#103
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:27 PM
Nah, it's not. They have a good young TE, WR, CB and two good lineman. No QB though. And a terrible front office.
Not a fan of Lombardi? I'm not sure if you can really say it's a terrible FO, it's only been a year since it was remade (with new ownership).
#104
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:33 PM
Put Manziel on that team and think about it. It's pretty solid then.
Or any good young QB.
#105
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:35 PM
Or any good young QB.
That's interesting, considering they had the 11th ranked pass offense this year as it was.
We've been saying Cleveland is talented and is a good job for years now. No, it's not.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
#106
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:38 PM
Not a fan of Lombardi? I'm not sure if you can really say it's a terrible FO, it's only been a year since it was remade (with new ownership).
I thought it was a terrible move firing the coach... but a great trade to get a 1st out of Indy. He's alright... but the organization he works for will not get the job done, that's the bottom line.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
#107
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:47 PM
I thought it was a terrible move firing the coach... but a great trade to get a 1st out of Indy. He's alright... but the organization he works for will not get the job done, that's the bottom line.
That's like saying if Angelos sold the O's, the new owner hired new management complete with a different front office and on-field staff, you wouldn't give them a chance because of their past.
I'm sorry but despite their past, I'm willing to give new personnel a chance. And that chance is more than a single year.
#108
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:50 PM
That's like saying if Angelos sold the O's, the new owner hired new management complete with a different front office and on-field staff, you wouldn't give them a chance because of their past.
I'm sorry but despite their past, I'm willing to give new personnel a chance. And that chance is more than a single year.
Go right ahead. They'll continue to be the doormats of the AFCN.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
#109
Posted 03 January 2014 - 02:51 PM
Go right ahead. They'll continue to be the doormats of the AFCN.
Maybe they will, it's an easy narrative but even if that's the case, it won't be because of the past.
#110
Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:56 AM
Grantland: A guide to the Browns never ending Coaching search
http://grantland.com...oaching-search/
#111
Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:09 AM
Sports Illustrated: Browns hire Mike Pettine
http://nfl.si.com/20...wns-head-coach/
#112
Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:45 AM
#113
Posted 26 January 2014 - 08:26 PM
@MaryKayCabot LSU OC Cam Cameron confirmed to http://nola.com today that #Browns expressed interest in hiring him. (doesn't want to uproot fam)
#114
Posted 26 January 2014 - 08:50 PM
@MaryKayCabot LSU OC Cam Cameron confirmed to http://nola.com today that #Browns expressed interest in hiring him. (doesn't want to uproot fam)
To quote Loki from Thor 2, "You must be truly desperate to come to me for help." Cleveland's FO is such a mess, and they saw us during the Cam Cameron years. What makes them want a piece of that?
#115
Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:58 PM
#116
Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:56 AM
Browns to hire Kyle Shanahan as OC (ESPN)
He would've been better off sitting out for a year. He's going to go from one diva in RGIII to another diva with glaring flaws with his game in Manziel.
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#117
Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:08 AM
Yup. Probably. Never a wise career move to go to the Browns.
He would've been better off sitting out for a year. He's going to go from one diva in RGIII to another diva with glaring flaws with his game in Manziel.
#118
Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:14 AM
I don't know. Nowhere to go but up, from there... so not all that bad. There won't be much expectation from him in that situation.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
#119
Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:04 PM
Sports on Earth: GM for a Day
http://www.sportsone...rticle/67434106
#120
Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:17 AM
Just when you think the Browns couldn't get any further into being the Browns...
Joe Banner, Mike Lombardi out in Cleveland, Ray Farmer new GM
...they up and go Full Browns.
You NEVER go Full Browns.
EDIT: Oh, and even though he was assistant GM, Farmer wasn't involved at all in hiring the new coach.
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