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[Chris B]

RIP Admiral Ackbar.

[Stringer Bell]

Had to sleep on it but I’ve formed the opinion that that was pretty awful. Definitely disappointing at the very least. 1. Umm, that’s not how the force works, Carrie Poppins 2. The entire casino planet plot line was prequels-level awful. An entire fleet to save but let’s waste time freeing some weird animals no one cares about. 3. Del Toro was terrible. His character and his acting. Just weird. 4. The Maz Kanata call. WTF she’s fighting a battle and takes a FaceTime call? Stupid. 5. The Rey/Luke stuff. The drama was really undercut by the editing. They needed to stick with scenes longer or something. The scenes were so short, and then we’d be back at the casino or wherever. I don’t know. I’ll probably see it again to be sure but it just seemed awful the more I thought I about it. If you take Luke out of this movie,it’s prequel bad. And I hate those damn prequels.

[DJ MC]

I'm guessing that we haven't heard the last of Rey's parents. The "revalation" came as Kylo Ren was trying to turn Rey to his side, and he could easily have been trying to deceive her. So that doesn't bother me.

[DJ MC]

The whole Finn-Rose plot seems like it should have been a stand-alone movie like Rogue One. A Resistance fleet is trapped, a redshirt knows how to escape, they go off with another crew member to find the code breaker and bring him back.

You could have done a whole thing fleshing out her character, and the codebreaker's motives, and the romantic plot. It probably would have been pretty good, too. As part of this movie, though, it just pads out the plot, both extending the length and taking away from other parts. It also looks like it's setting up a love triangle for Finn, but since we didn't spend enough time with Rose, there isn't much reason to care compared to Finn and Rey.

[Dupin]

The Leia floating scene was terrible.  They had the perfect opportunity to recut the movie there and kill her off, but now they have this massive problem where a major player in Episode 9 is dead.  Are they going to kill her offscreen now?  Gotta think the only reason they didn't recut it there is because they wanted to have the Luke and Leia reunion scene, but that is not worth sabotaging story flow going forward.

[DJ MC]

The Leia floating scene was terrible. They had the perfect opportunity to recut the movie there and kill her off, but now they have this massive problem where a major player in Episode 9 is dead. Are they going to kill her offscreen now? Gotta think the only reason they didn't recut it there is because they wanted to have the Luke and Leia reunion scene, but that is not worth sabotaging story flow going forward.

And if they wanted to show her using the Force, they could have had her appear to Luke on the island like Yoda does, inspiring him to do what he does to save the Resistance.

(Speaking of Yoda, no matter what else, at least they brought back Muppet Yoda, instead of CGI Yoda.)

[Pedro Cerrano]

Muppet anything > CGI anything 

[Pedro Cerrano]

And yes, to reiterate, the floating through space scene was awful.

 

I really wanted her to just die there. 

[DJ MC]

And yes, to reiterate, the floating through space scene was awful.

I really wanted her to just die there.

I think it's pretty funny that, with this one decision, they made a scene that should have been, "LEIA! NOOOOOOO! *sniff* Goodbye Princess." into, "Wait...WTF! Just DIE already you old hag!"

[Dupin]

And the way they cut the movie, every time she was on screen it felt like we were about to see her die.

[Stringer Bell]

Does anybody know what the deal was with those gold dice from the Falcon? They seemed to have a significance but I have zero recollection of those from any previous movie.

[DJ MC]

Does anybody know what the deal was with those gold dice from the Falcon? They seemed to have a significance but I have zero recollection of those from any previous movie.

 

I think that it was just supposed to be a symbol of Han and the connection all three of them had.

 

As I'm starting to think about this more, the bigger thing there (and in other scenes) was how Luke was able to appear in essentially physical form while still on the island. Yoda, too, during his scene. THAT is a big change from the other movies/stories, isn't it?

[Stringer Bell]

That’s definitely an expansion of the Force powers for sure. So were the conversations between Rey and Kylo. And of course flying through space 🙄

[SportsGuy]

I have always felt the original 3 movies were overrated...not bad movies at all but not the end all be all so many make them out to be.

I also thought the prequels were better than people make them out to be, especially the third one. I didn't think they were as good as New Hope or ESB but I thought they were right there with ROJ.

I think these 2 so far have been along the same lines as Episodes 3-5, which are my favorite 3 movies of the series.

I think people get too much of an expectation for these movies...when you really start thinking about them, there is a ton of contradiction and WTF type moments.

[DJ MC]

Does anybody know what the deal was with those gold dice from the Falcon? They seemed to have a significance but I have zero recollection of those from any previous movie.

I just saw an article on that. Apparently they actually are shown during Episode IV, hanging in the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon. But they weren't in V, VI or VII.

[DJ MC]

GQ: Let's Lovingly Nitpick Star Wars: The Last Jedi to Death

GOOD: Yoda. I cannot overstate how badly the Prequels fucked up Yoda, turning him into a somersaulting lightsaber monkey and having him backwards talk every goddamn sentence. So they brought him back as a Force Ghost and made him more like the original Puppet Yoda, with the old man walk and weird stray hairs, and that was nice. I cried. I also cried when Luke saw R2-D2. Oh, and I cried whenever Rey's Theme kicked in. I cried many times. Shut up.

[DuffMan]

RIP Admiral Ackbar.

If only he had suspected a trap......

[JeremyStrain]

The whole Finn-Rose plot seems like it should have been a stand-alone movie like Rogue One. A Resistance fleet is trapped, a redshirt knows how to escape, they go off with another crew member to find the code breaker and bring him back.

You could have done a whole thing fleshing out her character, and the codebreaker's motives, and the romantic plot. It probably would have been pretty good, too. As part of this movie, though, it just pads out the plot, both extending the length and taking away from other parts. It also looks like it's setting up a love triangle for Finn, but since we didn't spend enough time with Rose, there isn't much reason to care compared to Finn and Rey.

 

Yeah I kinda felt the only reason to have her live is to set up a love triangle and have Rey wrestle with jealousy and the dark side messing with her.

[JeremyStrain]

And yes, to reiterate, the floating through space scene was awful.

 

I really wanted her to just die there. 

 

Yep, I couldn't help thinking the whole time oh ok, so this is how they write her out, and you have to CGI it a bit cause of the space vacuum so it's easy to do afterwards.

 

Then that happened, and it's like ugh ok maybe she does something important towards the end they needed her for....nope not really.

 

OK, well now that someone has to stay behind, and Laura Dern's scenes are kind of tiny, so they could have been added after, so I get it now, Leia pilots the ship to save everyone, and Laura Dern kinda takes over her role, and they added that all in after death, genius!!!

 

Nope...not that either. Sigh.

[DuffMan]

Saw it yesterday with my oldest (she's 7).  This movie has problems many of them, but I liked it more than TFA.  I didn't like TFA, so if Last Jedi wasn't an improvement I was really going to be disappointed.  My biggest reason for liking this one more is that it was more of an original story and not just a rip off of the originals like TFA was.

 

The yoda reveal was probably my favorite part of the whole movie.  That was something I didn't know about at all so it was a great surprise. I also enjoyed force skyping between Rey and Kylo.

 

I hated almost all of the comedy bits in this movie,  I guess that was Johnson trying to make this his movie but most of them just seemed out of place.  The bit at the beginning with Poe and General Hux was stupid even worse was Luke tickling Rey (that sounds sketchy) while she tried to reach out.  Damn that just felt so out of place.  Having said that, I thought Hamill was great as Luke although I didn't like his death scene and how that was handled.

 

The whole casino bit could've been cut and probably would have made for a better shorter movie than what we got. 

 

Obviously the Leia fake death scene was awful and there's no defending it.

 

In a movie where there were many deaths a more impactful one would have been Finn taking out that cannon (I know that you then couldn't have used Luke the way you wanted in the end if this had happen).  There isn't much for him to do at this point and you finally saw character growth out of him, sacrificing himself for the rebellion would have completed that journey.

 

The porgs didn't annoy me like I thought they would.

 

I also didn't have a problem with Rey's parents and I'm fine with who her parents are.

 

I'm not sure where this is going in the 3rd movie, that's a good thing.  I'm not sure JJ Abrams can deliver but he won't be able to just copy Return of the Jedi.