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[BSLChrisStoner]

SI: Three Reasons the Surging Cardinals Can Win the World Series

[BSLChrisStoner]

The Ringer: A Eulogy for the 2019 St. Louis Cardinals

[BSLChrisStoner]

SI: MLB Rumors: Will Cardinals Flip Just-Acquired Liberatore for Arenado or Betts?
https://www.si.com/m...s-arenado-betts

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: The Cardinals have eased their outfield logjam via trade, but there's still some sorting out to do
https://www.cbssport...sorting-out-do/

[SportsGuy]

Released Yairo Munoz, UTI IFer.

Os interested?

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: St. Louis Cardinals owner Bill DeWitt Jr. claims MLB 'isn't very profitable'
https://www.cbssport...ery-profitable/

[dude]

CBS Sports: St. Louis Cardinals owner Bill DeWitt Jr. claims MLB 'isn't very profitable'
https://www.cbssport...ery-profitable/

 

So he's probably not wrong here...people just don't understand what he's saying and that's intentional.

 

If your team costs 2B and you make 100M annually, is that 'very profitable'?

 

now some people would say..."you made 100M !!!!!!"

someone else could say....."you only made a 5% return on your money, that sucks !!!!"

 

Perspective is going to matter and no-one has it.

[BobPhelan]

And you can sell it for billions basically whenever you want.

[Mike in STL]

And you can sell it for billions basically whenever you want.

Exactly. Angelos paid $173M for the O's in 93'. If he sold today at its current valuation it would be for $1.4B. Thats what. 800%+ return on investment in 27 years? And as the owner you hire the right people and kickback and enjoy the show. Unless you meddle like Jerry Jones, Mike Brown, Angelos, and other awful owners in sport then it becomes "work". 

 

We are well past the years of owners needing bank loans to secure a free agents contract. 

 

Steve Bisciotti once said "you don't buy a sports team to make money". I love the the Ravens, and everything he's done, but c'mon man. You don't buy a private jet to make money. You don't buy a yacht to make money. But those are things owners do too. Even if on the income statement at the end of the year you're a little in the red, check out your bank account and you'll feel just fine. And as you said, when you sell it, that's when you cash in like bank robbers. You go from 5% ROI each year, to 500% ROI at the end.

[Mackus]

So he's probably not wrong here...people just don't understand what he's saying and that's intentional.

If your team costs 2B and you make 100M annually, is that 'very profitable'?

now some people would say..."you made 100M !!!!!!"
someone else could say....."you only made a 5% return on your money, that sucks !!!!"

Perspective is going to matter and no-one has it.

One year of profits from operating compared to the purchase price is not the way to determine profit margin. And that is an especially dishonest argument if we (royal we as in the Cards owner, not as in dude) don't mention the potential value and/or sale price.

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Cardinals roster for MLB restart: Three things to know as St. Louis prepares for 60-game season
https://www.cbssport...60-game-season/

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CBS Sports: How should MLB handle Cardinals COVID-19 outbreak? Three options league has with St. Louis still sidelined
https://www.cbssport...till-sidelined/

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FanGraphs: After Outbreak, Cardinals Will Finally Return to Play, and Play and Play

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CBS Sports: St. Louis Cardinals' revised schedule features 11 doubleheaders
https://www.cbssport...-doubleheaders/

[BSLRoseKatz]

We always joke about #CardinalsDevilMagic but if they make the playoffs with that schedule, they're doing something very powerful

[BSLRoseKatz]

Arenado to the Cardinals https://twitter.com/...345919185743873

[BobPhelan]

For essentially nothing and the Rockies are kicking in $50 million. Thanks for showing up Rockies...

[Mackus]

Seems like the Cardinals always do this.  Rolen, McGwire, Holliday.  Good for them.

 

His contract had 6/$199M left on it.  If the Rockies are kicking in $50M, then the Cardinals are getting him for about $25M a year for the next 6 (assuming he doesn't opt out).  That's amazing.

 

He will be another interesting case study of how superstars do in and away from Coors.  For Arenado's career to date he's got 985/793 splits.  Before he was traded, Holliday was 1035/825 and then after the trade he was 863/813.  The latter numbers of course include his final few seasons when things went down overall both leaguewide and as he was an aging player.

[BobPhelan]

He also gets an extra year at $15 million, keeps his no trade clause, and has opt outs after the 2021 and 2022 seasons.

[Mackus]

Adding an extra year at $15M (and deferring other money if he did in fact do that) is a very dude-like proposal. He may know of others, but this is the first such accommodation I can recall of a player taking that type of extension. The Cardinals doing something dude strongly approves of seems right.