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[BSLChrisStoner]

Beyond the Boxscore: Is Jung-ho Kang an All-Star?

http://www.beyondthe...irates-all-star

[You Play to Win the Game]

If Cole keeps this up, the Pirates definitely have a legitimate contender on their hands. They are a damn good baseball team. And appear to have a shut down ace.

[DJ MC]

Pirates traded for Aramis Ramirez.

[BobPhelan]

Pirates traded for Aramis Ramirez.

I was about to ask why but it looks like he's been hot lately. Was abysmal for the first three months.

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: Kang providing great value

http://www.cbssports...nd-jung-ho-kang

[DJ MC]

Travis Snider's back with Pittsburgh. He just homered against the Cubs.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Travis Snider's back with Pittsburgh. He just homered against the Cubs.

He's been with them since 9/1 and hasn't done much. My friend texted me a little while cursing Hurdle for playing Snider over Cutch today. So this makes me laugh.

[BSLChrisStoner]

ESPN: Jung Ho Kang has torn MCL, broken tibia from Chris Coghlan slide

http://espn.go.com/m...ame-knee-injury

[Matt_P]

ESPN: Jung Ho Kang has torn MCL, broken tibia from Chris Coghlan slide

http://espn.go.com/m...ame-knee-injury

 

That was a cheap shot.

[RShack]

That was a cheap shot.

 

Yes it was.   It was fine to try to take out the guy while he's throwing, but you have to be responsible about it... you can't jump right into a guy's knee like that...

[Mackus]

http://espn.go.com/m...tly-dirty-slide

 

Disagree, its a clean slide.  Wasn't too late, wasn't too far from the bag, wasn't too high, and his spikes weren't up.  He ends up getting him on the knee, but only because Kang steps forward towards the runner to make the throw, when Coghlan started the slide it would have been well below the knee had Kang not stepped forward.  Kind of like a helmet-to-helmet call where the defender targets the chest, the receiver ducks or crouches, and the contact ends up being head-to-head.  That's not dirty.

[Matt_P]

I'd say it was #2 and 3 on your article. He doesn't hit the ground until after he hits him so it's clearly a late slide. Whether it's high or not is in question but his leg and feet are in the air the whole time. And technically he was still in the basepath but he altered his slide to go into the infielder.

 

It's dirty.

[Mackus]

It's only even borderline high because of Kang's motion, not because of anything Coghlan did.  It's pretty late, I'll agree, but late and low isn't dirty, and it's a late and low slide until Kang moves into him and changes the contact point.

 

Wasn't linking the article to support or refute either opinion, just thought it was interesting.

[Matt_P]

Think it would have been borderline regardless.

 

If he hit the ground first then we're not having this discussion. But especially given that the Cubs and Pirates are going to play in the wild-card game you have to avoid all appearances of a cheap shot.

 

It's opinion though. And I wouldn't be as against if it was literally any other team that did this.

[RShack]

It's only even borderline high because of Kang's motion, not because of anything Coghlan did.  It's pretty late, I'll agree, but late and low isn't dirty, and it's a late and low slide until Kang moves into him and changes the contact point.

 

Wasn't linking the article to support or refute either opinion, just thought it was interesting.

 

It's not like Kang's throwing motion was a big surprise full of unexpected movement...

 

I don't think it was about bad intent... I think it was mainly poor/crude sliding technique... he went in to do something, and I don't think his goal was to ruin the guy's season... but he's not good enough, skill-wise, to pull it off properly... it was the sliding equivalent of reckless driving...

[BSLChrisStoner]

Gammons Daily: Is Pirates’ Rotation Prepared for NL Central Warfare?

http://www.gammonsda...entral-warfare/

[BSLChrisStoner]

Sports Illustrated: Winter Report Card: Pirates don't keep pace in off-season

http://www.si.com/ml...tsburgh-pirates

[Mike B]

Pirates may have missed their window.  

The Cardinals and Cubs will make it tough on them.

[Mark Carver]

Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Ryan Vogelsong was nailed in the head by a Jordan Lyles fastball in the second inning of today’s game against the Colorado Rockies. Vogelsong stayed down for several moments, before eventually being carted off the field while holding a towel to his face.

 

 

http://deadspin.com/...-fie-1778222945

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: So far in 2016, Andrew McCutchen is the third best player in baseball's best outfield
http://www.cbssports...-best-outfield/