
Andino
#1
Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:42 AM
Through his first 76 ab's, Andino is batting .316, has a .779 OPS, and a .336 wOBA. He has 3 doubles, 1 triple, 1 hr, 6 rbi, 5 bb's (2 last night), and 18 k's.
Not that it means a lot in 191 innings, but FanGraphs has his current UZR/150 as 1.0. That matches what I'm seeing with my eyes, I think he is playing a good 2nd base.
If his BABIP is elevated, his walk rate is lower, and k rate is higher than it figures to be.
Really solid approach at the plate, with lots of line drives right back up the middle. (LD % is 24.1, was 21.3 last year.)
#2
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:00 AM
#3
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:13 AM
#4
Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:24 AM
The thing is if BRob was ready to come back tomorrow you really wouldn't be able to move Andino off of 2b for him at this point. That speaks volumes. BTW... I also think it is a good thing for Brian. I truely believe the guy is a gamer. He loves the game of baseball and he is showing it with his effort to get back at some point this year and by traveling with the team. With the team playing well overall I could see a scenario where Brian pushed himself too much to get back in the lineup and contribute. With Andino playing a good 2b I think that takes any of that potential pressure off of Brian.
#5
Posted 04 May 2012 - 11:34 AM
#6
Posted 04 May 2012 - 11:36 AM
My thoughts are if B-Rob does make it back, and that's still a big if at this point IMO, would you displace Andino to do so? I appreciate all B-Rob has done both on-and-off the field here, but I think Andino is the better option at this point. One possible idea is sending Andino to third or even DHing B-Rob atleast to start with.Feeling better about my thought preseason that we shouldn't just pigeon this guy in as a UTI player who's being forced to play a reg role. He's definitely an above average 2B defensively. The question of course is and will always be the bat. IMO, he's made some changes at the plate that will allow him to be an average or close to average offensive 2b. With average offense and above average defense we have an everyday 2b on our hands.
The thing is if BRob was ready to come back tomorrow you really wouldn't be able to move Andino off of 2b for him at this point. That speaks volumes. BTW... I also think it is a good thing for Brian. I truely believe the guy is a gamer. He loves the game of baseball and he is showing it with his effort to get back at some point this year and by traveling with the team. With the team playing well overall I could see a scenario where Brian pushed himself too much to get back in the lineup and contribute. With Andino playing a good 2b I think that takes any of that potential pressure off of Brian.
#7
Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:45 PM
Wondering what kind of reception he gets in Boston? My guess is he'll get booed, but it won't be too strong. I don't think they hate us(or him) like the Yankees.
Robert *Bleep*ing Andino?
Let's just say I REALLY want to see his first plate appearance tonight

#8
Posted 04 May 2012 - 02:52 PM
I still don't expect him to ever suit up again, but if he does and is still a valuable leadoff guy, stashing him at DH might not be a bad plan.
DH Roberts
LF Reimold
RF Markakis
CF Jones
C Wieters
1B Davis
SS Hardy
3B Betemit
2B Andino
#9
Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:10 PM
I really want Buck to bat him first tonight.Wondering what kind of reception he gets in Boston? My guess is he'll get booed, but it won't be too strong. I don't think they hate us(or him) like the Yankees.
Robert *Bleep*ing Andino?
Let's just say I REALLY want to see his first plate appearance tonight
#10
Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:44 PM
I really want Buck to bat him first tonight.
According to the lineups, he is.
#12
Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:04 PM
#13
Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:11 PM
#14
Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:24 PM
Better question is are you ok with Andino as the regular third baseman?SO lets say Andino is a .680 OPS reg 2b with very good defense and BRob is .730 reg OPS with below average defense. Who you taking as your reg 2B. Overall speed is probably the same and BRob will give you more SBs. However, I do think BRobs stolen base attempts will drop a good bit.
#15
Posted 22 May 2012 - 11:13 PM
Better question is are you ok with Andino as the regular third baseman?SO lets say Andino is a .680 OPS reg 2b with very good defense and BRob is .730 reg OPS with below average defense. Who you taking as your reg 2B. Overall speed is probably the same and BRob will give you more SBs. However, I do think BRobs stolen base attempts will drop a good bit.
Does he play 3b defense as well as he does at 2b??? IMO, you pretty much know what you are getting offensively with Andino. If moving him to 3b would hurt both our 2b and 3b defense I'm not sure that I do. If he's very good defensively at 3B I would seriously consider it. The truth of the matter is that we need to get better offensive production from 3b but considering our internal options I'm fine with Andino there if he is solid defensively. Truth be told I think you guys nailed it about Roberts and his inability to play 5-6 days a week. Seems likely we are headed for more mixing and matching with Brian and Andino at 2b, Andino and Betemit, and possibly Tejada at 3b, and Davis, Betemit, and Reynolds at 1b and DH.
#16
Posted 11 June 2012 - 08:30 AM
Season: .625 OPS, 12 xbh's, 17 rbi's, 15 bb's, 63 k's
.593 OPS in May
.454 OPS in June
#17
Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:21 AM
#18
Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:33 AM
Being exposed for the player he is.Been a rough stretch for Andino.
Season: .625 OPS, 12 xbh's, 17 rbi's, 15 bb's, 63 k's
.593 OPS in May
.454 OPS in June
He isn't that good and is certainly not an everyday player.
That has always been the case despite the excitement that people had. Put him on the bench and he can be valuable as a role player or perhaps as a secondary piece in a trade.
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#19
Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:37 AM
Yet you keep hearing the phrase Andino-ize for other role players given the Orioles injuries in the corner outfield and ineffectiveness in the corner infield. I'll give him credit though, he did better than I thought he would overall since B-Rob went down and he became the de facto everyday second baseman.Being exposed for the player he is.Been a rough stretch for Andino.
Season: .625 OPS, 12 xbh's, 17 rbi's, 15 bb's, 63 k's
.593 OPS in May
.454 OPS in June
He isn't that good and is certainly not an everyday player.
That has always been the case despite the excitement that people had. Put him on the bench and he can be valuable as a role player or perhaps as a secondary piece in a trade.
#20
Posted 11 June 2012 - 09:49 AM
Thats because people overrate small sample sizes and big hits that stick in your memory. It doesn't mean the player is all of a sudden good despite thousands of pro at bats that say otherwise.Yet you keep hearing the phrase Andino-ize for other role players given the Orioles injuries in the corner outfield and ineffectiveness in the corner infield. I'll give him credit though, he did better than I thought he would overall since B-Rob went down and he became the de facto everyday second baseman.
Being exposed for the player he is.
He isn't that good and is certainly not an everyday player.
That has always been the case despite the excitement that people had. Put him on the bench and he can be valuable as a role player or perhaps as a secondary piece in a trade.
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