HOF
Posted 23 July 2020 - 02:38 PM
Only reason this is such big news is because it's the fact that the person who tested positive is a young, star player, on the defending World Series champion's team, playing in the nation's capital, with their first game of the season (which just so happens to be the first MLB game of the season) happening in mere hours.
Kind of a perfect storm.
You mean Rob didn't post the news as part of his liberal agenda?
I Miss McNulty
Posted 23 July 2020 - 02:38 PM
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
"Now OPS sucks. Got it."
"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."
"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty
@bopper33
HOF
Posted 23 July 2020 - 02:45 PM
HOF
Posted 23 July 2020 - 02:47 PM
It'd be really devastating if he infected all the Orioles players this week and we have to forfeit games rather than just lose them.
If all your players have negative WAR, then the team would actually improve.
HOF
Posted 23 July 2020 - 03:06 PM
I think it’s insane that they don’t have instant test results. THAT could be a problem
Agreed.
Moderator
Posted 23 July 2020 - 03:38 PM
Oh JFC. A player tested positive. It was going to happen. It's happened already. He's asymptomatic and the rest of the team is available, presumably they do not have it.
And I would imagine, per the protocols, everyone on the O's has been tested since the games earlier this week.
Seriously, the drama because you all hate Trump is getting really old. Enjoy the season or wallow in misery because a handful of players are going to get the sniffles and miss two weeks. I don't care.
I still love you all.
Rant over.
I Miss McNulty
Posted 23 July 2020 - 03:58 PM
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
"Now OPS sucks. Got it."
"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."
"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty
@bopper33
HOF
Posted 23 July 2020 - 04:18 PM
My friend works for Amazon and they have the immediate result test and test their staff every other day. But MLB can't do the same? Ridic. It must be all those taxes Bezos pays. Oh, wait...
I do agree. I thought they guys were going to get immediate results. Those tests exist. Why cant MLB use them?
Moderator
Posted 23 July 2020 - 09:57 PM
HOF
Posted 23 July 2020 - 09:58 PM
I Miss McNulty
Posted 23 July 2020 - 10:30 PM
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
"Now OPS sucks. Got it."
"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."
"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty
@bopper33
HOF
Posted 24 July 2020 - 06:00 AM
Owner
HOF
Posted 05 August 2020 - 06:48 PM
Scherzer left the game today after 1 inning. A possible injury
HOF
Posted 19 October 2020 - 11:55 PM
I was looking at something on the nationals salary today and I noticed something about Scherzer's contract where I'd guess he got paid all of him money this year.
HIs contract (if the terms are correct) had a 50M signing bonus which paid it in 15M increments in 2019-2021 (+5M back in 2015).
His 35M salaries from 2019-2021 (105M) were used in the deferred portion of his contract so that is the 15M per for 7 years (105M).
His signing bonus shouldn't have been subject to the scaled payment (not 2020 salary) and all of his 2020 salary was deferred into the future and our understanding (National report) is that deferred money is paid out 100% in the future.
I don't see where Scherzer would have had salary subject to the structural salary changes of the 2020 season. Huh.
MVP
Posted 20 October 2020 - 05:30 AM
I was looking at something on the nationals salary today and I noticed something about Scherzer's contract where I'd guess he got paid all of him money this year.
HIs contract (if the terms are correct) had a 50M signing bonus which paid it in 15M increments in 2019-2021 (+5M back in 2015).
His 35M salaries from 2019-2021 (105M) were used in the deferred portion of his contract so that is the 15M per for 7 years (105M).
His signing bonus shouldn't have been subject to the scaled payment (not 2020 salary) and all of his 2020 salary was deferred into the future and our understanding (National report) is that deferred money is paid out 100% in the future.
I don't see where Scherzer would have had salary subject to the structural salary changes of the 2020 season. Huh.
I suspect that his contract terms were incorrectly reported.
HOF
Posted 20 October 2020 - 06:10 AM
I suspect that his contract terms were incorrectly reported.
Don't think so. dude is right. All of Scherzer's 2019-2021 salary ($35M/year, $105M total) is deferred until 2022-2028 ($15M/year, $105M total).
https://legacy.baseb...gton-nationals/
I think it's possible that he may have to prorate 1/7th of the $50M bonus. MLB accounts for signing bonus in luxury tax calculations as being equally applied across the guaranteed years of the contract. I don't know if there is language in his contract or the MLBPA or the agreement about 2020 that would apply to signing bonuses. But it would make sense if there were.
MVP
Posted 20 October 2020 - 06:43 AM
Don't think so. dude is right. All of Scherzer's 2019-2021 salary ($35M/year, $105M total) is deferred until 2022-2028 ($15M/year, $105M total).
https://legacy.baseb...gton-nationals/
I think it's possible that he may have to prorate 1/7th of the $50M bonus. MLB accounts for signing bonus in luxury tax calculations as being equally applied across the guaranteed years of the contract. I don't know if there is language in his contract or the MLBPA or the agreement about 2020 that would apply to signing bonuses. But it would make sense if there were.
Dang, got a headache from trying to reach the information on that link about his contract. 
Take an entire team of lawyers to figure that contract out to get it approved by the player, the team and finally MLB.
Deferred money, but still calculated in their payroll numbers.
HOF
Posted 20 October 2020 - 07:43 AM
Deferred money, but still calculated in their payroll numbers.
This part is for MLB luxury tax and revenue sharing calculations. MLB calculates the total salary for each team each year. Deferred money makes that complicated, since it is money a player is earning in a given season but not being paid until some time in the future. Signing bonuses are similarly complicated, as they are being paid all the money up front (or at some agreed-upon date) but it is money that is earned over the course of the years covered by the contract.
Signing bonuses are easier, as they are just evenly split across the years regardless of when the payments are made. Scherzer got a $50M signing bonus on his 7-year deal. So the luxury tax implications of that are that $7.14M counts for each of the 7 years (50/7).
The deferred money is more complicated. The way they do it is the determine the net present value (NPV) of the money. Apologies if you already know this, but it is a basic economic term that answers the question of "how much is it worth to me today if I know someone is paying me tomorrow". A dollar tomorrow is not worth the same as a dollar today, it's worth less. MLB and MLBPA have agreed upon a discount rate to use when calculating the value, so that part is fixed (I believe it's around 4%). So you determine the current value of future payments by applying the discount rate any come up with 2020-dollar value of the future payments.
I don't know why this minutiae interests me so much, but it does. Same with salary cap rules in the NFL.
HOF
Posted 21 October 2020 - 12:02 PM
I think it's possible that he may have to prorate 1/7th of the $50M bonus. MLB accounts for signing bonus in luxury tax calculations as being equally applied across the guaranteed years of the contract. I don't know if there is language in his contract or the MLBPA or the agreement about 2020 that would apply to signing bonuses. But it would make sense if there were.
These things interest me too. None of this ever really has anything to do with the Orioles because they won't ever push the Lux Tax threshold, but still interesting to me just in terms of structure.
I would guess....and that's all we're doing since there's so many small rule applications that likely had to be negotiated inside of these agreements that never see the light of day....that signing bonus money wouldn't be subject to 2020 rules.
As it would also apply to the Orioles, in the 2020 Baseline thread, we identified 10.85M (I think) that was likely paid out at the full, not the partial, rate.
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