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[You Play to Win the Game]

Think they'll move on from Boone?

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Think they'll move on from Boone?

Interesting to see. He has the right players full support. If they dont move on its probably just a short deal to return. Make me bet Ill say they move on but the support he has in the clubhouse gives me pause

[BSLChrisStoner]

Should decide on Cashman first.

Re: Cole

He's awesome. It's one game. But he signed up for NY and that circus and if the fans turn on him and it gets in his head going forward...certainly wont cry about that as an Orioles fan.

[dude]

...and we should continue to point this out.  The Yankees were the widely renowned favorite for the AL crown this year.

 

Despite that, they were fighting for their Playoff lives until (literally) the last day of the season.

 

You get a one game Playoff using a Cy Young candidate you are paying more than the entire Orioles roster.

 

Many people think there's something incredible about having the 'best team'. There's dreams of the Orioles being that 'best team'.  ...but just because you're the best team, doesn't mean you get to win.  Just because you're the last team in, doesn't mean you can't win.  Doesn't mean you will either.

 

each season is a unique opportunity you never get back.  It's one shot.  The Dodgers have been the best (in nearly every respect) team over the last 8 years and it took the shortened COVID season for them to break through for a Championship.  The Dodgers nearly got bounced last night and it was a struggling Chris Taylor (who didn't even start) that walked it off in the bottom of the 9th.

 

You never know what is going to happen.  Show up (as an Organization), play your ass off.  Maybe you get an improbable 30-30 season from a role player and a best ever rookie season and a Perfect Game No-Hitter out of a pitcher....who knows.  Don't waste a season.

[dude]

Think they'll move on from Boone?

 

Should decide on Cashman first.

Re: Cole

He's awesome. It's one game. But he signed up for NY and that circus and if the fans turn on him and it gets in his head going forward...certainly wont cry about that as an Orioles fan.

 

This is the trap they get into.  DJL didn't have nearly as good a season.  They have a good team.  They need more out of SS....I could see them pursuing Story.  Story winds up in NYY or STL for my bet.

 

I'll say they stay largely intact.  They don't have a ton of room to maneuver with their existing contracts.  They have to figure out what to do with Judge.  They need to decide on their catching.  They need a starter or 2 and figure out some bullpen pieces.

 

You can argue they'll be the best team in the AL again next year, but they may not make it to the ALCS either.

 

Last decade (2010-2019) was the first decade in 5ever that the Yankees didn't APPEAR in a WS.

 

In the last 12 years, they have not made the Playoffs 3 years and twice they've gotten bounced out in the 1-game WC.

 

The LAA Angels have had the best player in maybe the history of Baseball for the last 12 years, have the MVP this year and spent gobs of money on a prior MVP and they didn't make the Playoffs and Mike Trout hasn't won a Playoff Series.

 

The Rays have one of the best Plans in MLB and routinely compete, but don't have a WS.

 

The Nationals won in 2019 after everyone left them for dead in May and they had one of the worst MiL systems in the Game.

 

The Padres had the best MiL system for 3 years in a row and finished under .500 this year.  They have little from 'rebuilding' going forward.

 

The Astros had to cheat to win a WS.

 

We can go on and on.

 

It's more than Money, it's more than just Talent.

[BSLChrisStoner]

It's more than money, sure... agreed there. 

Talent basically wins out in the regular season, and talent is more than just the guys at the top of the roster. 

The Yankees roster top to bottom was good but not great. 

Tampa Bay is the best team overall in the AL, and got great production up and down their roster... and the depth to withstand losing Glasnow. 

 

Angels have great talent at the top... and a middling roster overall. And Trout missed a lot of time. 

The Padres underachieved, but they can run it back without additions and they'll be one of the favorites to win it all in '22. 

San Fran certainly overachieved... and that's an example of, "Baseball." 

I'm rooting for Tampa Bay or Houston. Best thing about the Astros doing what they did this year, was they've made the narrative that they had to cheat to win look dumb.

 

Things happen over 162 games sometimes.  But I'd still bet on the teams with the most talent.

You get to the post-season... and these short-series don't tell you all that much imo.  Good amount of luck.

[dude]

Best thing about the Astros doing what they did this year, was they've made the narrative that they had to cheat to win look dumb.

 

...hey, where'd Jose Altuve's tattoo go?

[TwentyThirtyFive]

...and we should continue to point this out.  The Yankees were the widely renowned favorite for the AL crown this year.

 

Despite that, they were fighting for their Playoff lives until (literally) the last day of the season.

 

You get a one game Playoff using a Cy Young candidate you are paying more than the entire Orioles roster.

 

Many people think there's something incredible about having the 'best team'. There's dreams of the Orioles being that 'best team'.  ...but just because you're the best team, doesn't mean you get to win.  Just because you're the last team in, doesn't mean you can't win.  Doesn't mean you will either.

 

each season is a unique opportunity you never get back.  It's one shot.  The Dodgers have been the best (in nearly every respect) team over the last 8 years and it took the shortened COVID season for them to break through for a Championship.  The Dodgers nearly got bounced last night and it was a struggling Chris Taylor (who didn't even start) that walked it off in the bottom of the 9th.

 

You never know what is going to happen.  Show up (as an Organization), play your ass off.  Maybe you get an improbable 30-30 season from a role player and a best ever rookie season and a Perfect Game No-Hitter out of a pitcher....who knows.  Don't waste a season.

Going into a season with a 80-85 win team on paper is a recipe for disaster when youre using so many of your resources to get to 80-85 wins on paper. 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Its more than money. Its more than talent. But those things help a lot. What its not is signing guys that cant  hit their way out of a paper bag in the NPB because you think they have "leardership skills"that somehow overcome their inferior ability on the field 

[Mackus]

You can lose with talent and money.  But you can't win without at least one.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

BTW Im an intangibles guy. There are things that go beyond strictly talent and ability but you cant rely on it to overcome talent.

[BSLChrisStoner]

BTW IM an intangible guy. There are things that go beyond strictly talent and ability but you cant rely on it to overcome talent.

I feel the same.  

[CantonJester]

This is the trap they get into.  DJL didn't have nearly as good a season.  They have a good team.  They need more out of SS....I could see them pursuing Story.  Story winds up in NYY or STL for my bet.

 

I'll say they stay largely intact.  They don't have a ton of room to maneuver with their existing contracts.  They have to figure out what to do with Judge.  They need to decide on their catching.  They need a starter or 2 and figure out some bullpen pieces.

 

You can argue they'll be the best team in the AL again next year, but they may not make it to the ALCS either.

 

Last decade (2010-2019) was the first decade in 5ever that the Yankees didn't APPEAR in a WS.

 

In the last 12 years, they have not made the Playoffs 3 years and twice they've gotten bounced out in the 1-game WC.

 

The LAA Angels have had the best player in maybe the history of Baseball for the last 12 years, have the MVP this year and spent gobs of money on a prior MVP and they didn't make the Playoffs and Mike Trout hasn't won a Playoff Series.

 

The Rays have one of the best Plans in MLB and routinely compete, but don't have a WS.

 

The Nationals won in 2019 after everyone left them for dead in May and they had one of the worst MiL systems in the Game.

 

The Padres had the best MiL system for 3 years in a row and finished under .500 this year.  They have little from 'rebuilding' going forward.

 

The Astros had to cheat to win a WS.

 

We can go on and on.

 

It's more than Money, it's more than just Talent.

 

I'd look for the Yankees to sign Corey Seager, and look to strike a deal with Cincinnati for Tucker Barnhart at C. To be honest, the Yankees should be looking to move Stanton in order to ink Judge to a 6 year deal. 

 

Also, while we're at it, they ought to be looking to move some sort of package from a list of misfit parts (Andujar, Voit, Sanchez, et al) in a deal that nets them Trey Mancini. 

[CantonJester]

As for the talk going on regarding the lack of cohesion, or 'it factor' going on with the Yankees?

 

That's easy. They don't respect Aaron Boone. It'll be more of the same though if Cashman replaces Boone with another puppet. 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Three year contract extension for Aaron Boone.

[BSLChrisStoner]

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[BSLChrisStoner]

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[BSLChrisStoner]

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[BSLChrisStoner]

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[Mike B]

CBS Sports: MLB rumors: Yankees expected to pursue Freddie Freeman once lockout ends

https://www.cbssport...e-lockout-ends/

it would be a shame to see Freeman leave the Braves, but as the current situation proves baseball is a business.