LOL. Whatever. Pedro is spot on about you.
Sorry you can't deal with simple logic.
Posted 22 July 2013 - 09:05 PM
LOL. Whatever. Pedro is spot on about you.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 06:18 AM
1) I was talking in general terms.We are talking about this in the context of the list so there's no point in talking about a bench player. And you said that going out and playing a round of golf is tougher than playing a game of basketball. You said that in the context of that individual day so long term effects are not part of that equation. I think you're overstating the long term effects of golf as well and understating them for basketball. Most golfers don't have the injury issues that Tiger has had. At least not to my knowledge.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:37 AM
If very few guys who play high level basketball are playing hard, why do they almost all look completely cut?
The average collegiate basketball player is in far better shape than the average pro golfer. Because they have to be.
I can't believe this debate is still going on.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:41 AM
If very few guys who play high level basketball are playing hard, why do they almost all look completely cut?
The average collegiate basketball player is in far better shape than the average pro golfer. Because they have to be.
I can't believe this debate is still going on.
I tried to deflect it to harp on some other lists...didn't work.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:42 AM
If very few guys who play high level basketball are playing hard, why do they almost all look completely cut?The average collegiate basketball player is in far better shape than the average pro golfer. Because they have to be.I can't believe this debate is still going on.
Who is debating the in shape part? And btw, I'm not even sure that this is accurate but even if it is, no one is saying that's not true.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:43 AM
1) I was talking in general terms.
2) long term effects are in the equation when you whine about golf not being a sport...all I am saying is that while I are the athleticism isn't there, there are other aspects of it that make it a demanding sport.
In other words, as you belittle it and hold the pothead Olympics on a pedestal, I am just trying to say that there is more to golf than a fat guy standing there with a beer and cigar, hitting a ball and then jumping into his golf cart to go retrieve that ball. I think you believe that's all there is to it. I don't think you get the mental side of it...the practicing...the wear and tear on your body from doing something unnatural, etc....
I think if you went and shot 100 jumpers and then hit 100 golf balls, you would be more worn out from the golf balls and would be feeling it a lot more the next day.
I think people see guys running up and down the court and assume its more demanding....yet many players stand around, don't play defense, don't bang around inside, etc....there are plenty of guys that stand in a spot and wait for the ball to be thrown to them. That's demanding on your body at all...and if it is, it's because you are a wuss and can't take a little running. That's what I'm saying. Very few guys are putting there bodies on the line, offensively and defensively. Very few guys are playing tons of minutes, producing on both ends, etc....it's just not happening.
I have done both and one day of Snow Boarding is a lot more grueling on the body then one day of golf. Your arguments don't hold up.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 07:44 AM
We aren't talking about snowboarding...we are talking half pipe...huge difference.I have done both and one day of Snow Boarding is a lot more grueling on the body then one day of golf. Your arguments don't hold up.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:27 AM
Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:40 AM
Posted 24 July 2013 - 08:48 AM
Ok so now we are fragmenting the sports even further and ignoring parts of peoples careers and medals won. So I just want to go off of Tigers last 5 years he would not be on a top 1000 list.No...we are talking half pipe for the most part, when it comes to White.
Slope style is doing tricks. That's what we are talking about here.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 10:51 AM
Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:14 PM
He's being different. He's taking that path less taken in not wanting to recognize golf as a top tier sport like the rest of the world. I get it, that's what hipsters do. I'm just not going to play his game.
Hipsters. Hah. Sorry, this just made me laugh, quite a bit actually. Not saying I agree with BNick or really getting in this argument, but this was a good line.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
Posted 24 July 2013 - 12:16 PM
Well, I was certainly right that having a "best athletes" series across multiple episodes would spur tons of debate. But never ye fear, I'm too big a guy to adequately pat myself on the back, so I'm good.
“We have a shot at a wild card right now. But it is not a probability that we're going to win a wild card.” -2022 Trade Deadline
"It's liftoff from here" - after selling on 2022
"We're on a slight upward arc" - Winter Meetings 2022
"I think it's really hard to sit there and chart a course and say, 'We're likely to win the division.'" - Winter Meetings 2022
Mike Elias
Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:25 PM
I've never said that golf isn't a sport, or anything close to that.1) I was talking in general terms.
2) long term effects are in the equation when you whine about golf not being a sport...all I am saying is that while I are the athleticism isn't there, there are other aspects of it that make it a demanding sport.
In other words, as you belittle it and hold the pothead Olympics on a pedestal, I am just trying to say that there is more to golf than a fat guy standing there with a beer and cigar, hitting a ball and then jumping into his golf cart to go retrieve that ball. I think you believe that's all there is to it. I don't think you get the mental side of it...the practicing...the wear and tear on your body from doing something unnatural, etc....
I think if you went and shot 100 jumpers and then hit 100 golf balls, you would be more worn out from the golf balls and would be feeling it a lot more the next day.
I think people see guys running up and down the court and assume its more demanding....yet many players stand around, don't play defense, don't bang around inside, etc....there are plenty of guys that stand in a spot and wait for the ball to be thrown to them. That's not demanding on your body at all...and if it is, it's because you are a wuss and can't take a little running. That's what I'm saying. Very few guys are putting there bodies on the line, offensively and defensively. Very few guys are playing tons of minutes, producing on both ends, etc....it's just not happening.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:27 PM
Well, I was certainly right that having a "best athletes" series across multiple episodes would spur tons of debate. But never ye fear, I'm too big a guy to adequately pat myself on the back, so I'm good.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:38 PM
Are we really still debating the athletic merits of basketball vs. golf? This didn't die with "the world is flat vs. round"?
There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:57 PM
Next week's debate:
Speedwalking versus Lacrosse
Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:59 PM
Hipsters. Hah. Sorry, this just made me laugh, quite a bit actually. Not saying I agree with BNick or really getting in this argument, but this was a good line.
I absolutely believe Weber has an agenda in railing against the sport of golf. It obviously isn't just about athleticism. Again, he is picking and choosing when and how often to use "athleticism" in his rankings of athletes. He never got real technical about anything involving athleticism until he decided to bring up his reason for ranking Tiger so low.
Posted 24 July 2013 - 02:09 PM
Next week's debate:
Speedwalking versus Lacrosse
Posted 24 July 2013 - 02:18 PM
I'm not railing on it. I brought up a rather obvious point imo. You want to call that railing while Rob takes way more blatant shots at the X games and while you ignore Shaun White?I absolutely believe Weber has an agenda in railing against the sport of golf. It obviously isn't just about athleticism. Again, he is picking and choosing when and how often to use "athleticism" in his rankings of athletes. He never got real technical about anything involving athleticism until he decided to bring up his reason for ranking Tiger so low.
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