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#421 CA-ORIOLE

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:46 PM

They wanted the draft pick.  They basically gave up 3 million to get the pick.

 

They seemingly value the picks and the minor league system, far more than we do.

I get that, but that wasn't my point. 



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:48 PM

I bet Matusz gets a better offer, but if he doesn't, then the O's oughta try to sign him to be a MiL SP.... give him the rest of the year to remember what he knew how to do before the O's screwed him up in the first place...

Some people are gonna cringe but I wouldn't be surprised if we offered him a Mil deal. If he actually can get a ML offer at this point is another matter. I'm skeptical.



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:45 PM

Fairly certain Matusz wouldn't come back and possibly even asked for this trade quietly. Know he wasn't happy here.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:24 PM

Fairly certain Matusz wouldn't come back and possibly even asked for this trade quietly. Know he wasn't happy here.

He didn't mind our money. I doubt he wasn't happy here but I do believe he's looking for a change of scenery as he should.
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Posted 24 May 2016 - 08:52 PM

Palmer just called him stubborn. Won't listen to his pitching coaches. Is Matusz the guy that supposedly called Palmers career nothing special?

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:24 PM

Palmer just called him stubborn. Won't listen to his pitching coaches. Is Matusz the guy that supposedly called Palmers career nothing special?



I always assumed that was Guthrie.

I'm not doubting Palmer, but there have been numerous opportunities to dump Matusz the last three years and it wasn't done. It made me think Matusz was a nugget.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 09:45 PM

I always assumed that was Guthrie. I'm not doubting Palmer, but there have been numerous opportunities to dump Matusz the last three years and it wasn't done. It made me think Matusz was a nugget.


Wow. I always thought it was either Matusz or Tillman. Didn't suspect Guthrie.

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Posted 25 May 2016 - 06:39 AM

Yeah that's not something you'd ever expect Guthrie to say. That was Matusz all the way and even if it was him I am guessing it was a joke that went over Palmer's head. Can't expect any MLB'er to say something that totally stupid.
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Posted 25 May 2016 - 11:08 AM

Palmer just called him stubborn. Won't listen to his pitching coaches. Is Matusz the guy that supposedly called Palmers career nothing special?

Palmer was and is my favorite pitcher of all time, but Jim has always been self centered.  I have heard that nothing special comment before and thought it was Guthrie, but it also could have been Jim, getting himself in the story.

 

Have a hard time seeing any pitcher say that about a HOFer.  


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Posted 25 May 2016 - 04:31 PM

Palmer was and is my favorite pitcher of all time, but Jim has always been self centered.  I have heard that nothing special comment before and thought it was Guthrie, but it also could have been Jim, getting himself in the story.

 

Have a hard time seeing any pitcher say that about a HOFer.  

 

I can imagine somebody saying that when they were goofing around... kinda like telling Boog he had an ugly swing.... or telling Eddie that his eyes were no good, he couldn't tell a ball from a strike... or telling Cal that he was always looking for a way to take a day off... 

 

When you're talking about a guy who won 3 CYA's in 4 years, had 8 20-W seasons, and has his choice of WS rings from 3 decades to choose from when he gets dressed in the morning, it's the only uncrazy explanation...


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Posted 07 January 2025 - 08:06 PM

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Posted 07 January 2025 - 08:14 PM

Damn that’s awful. 37 years old. Owned David Ortiz.

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Posted 07 January 2025 - 08:25 PM

I knew this wasnt gonna be a good bump



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Posted 07 January 2025 - 08:31 PM

RIP LOOGY HAMMER

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Posted 07 January 2025 - 08:36 PM

Terrible

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Posted 07 January 2025 - 08:50 PM

Just brutal.  Way too young. RIP


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Posted 07 January 2025 - 09:24 PM

The Orioles FO at the time was pretty open off the record of sharing he had off field issues.

Hope he got past that, and it wasn't the case here.

Think most of us remember him being drafted and the promise he had. And while he didn't hit his ceiling, he did help the team.

RIP.

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Posted 07 January 2025 - 09:46 PM

RIP



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Posted 07 January 2025 - 09:50 PM

OT...go back and read this thread in it's entirety.

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Posted 07 January 2025 - 09:58 PM

Wtf. That’s ridiculously sad. RIP.




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