I’m officially ok with the Lopez deal
Update. Still ok with it.
Posted 10 May 2023 - 08:11 PM
I’m officially ok with the Lopez deal
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Posted 10 May 2023 - 08:14 PM
Posted 10 May 2023 - 09:27 PM
Povich can be a bit of a roller coaster. 4.15 ERA in AA. 2 good outings, 1 bad, 2 suspect. Piling up strikouts though,
Lopez has a great ERA in Min but the hard hit % and strikeout rate just arent anywhere close to where they were for the brief tome with the Os. The regression is surely coming though he could still be solid.
Not sure about the 3rd guy in the trade. A better question for Phelan.
Brings us to Cano in all of this. Seems like he can match Lopez's production in the short term and if he can be a back end guy for 3,4,5 years its an easy slam dunk steal just on him alone.
Posted 10 May 2023 - 09:33 PM
Posted 10 May 2023 - 09:33 PM
Posted 10 May 2023 - 09:41 PM
Yeah but they could’ve traded me for Cano and kept Jorge Lopez.
Posted 10 May 2023 - 10:01 PM
Yeah but they could’ve traded me for Cano and kept Jorge Lopez.
Ugh. Was discussed in another thread. I hate making this assumption
Posted 11 May 2023 - 08:19 AM
Why didn't Cano make the team out of ST? I don't recall any buzz about him looking this way, and with the injuries to Tate and Givens there were openings. Bautista and Perez both made the team out of ST last year after they popped.
Posted 11 May 2023 - 09:52 AM
Why didn't Cano make the team out of ST? I don't recall any buzz about him looking this way, and with the injuries to Tate and Givens there were openings. Bautista and Perez both made the team out of ST last year after they popped.
Posted 11 May 2023 - 11:50 AM
He had a 5.14 ERA over 7 innings with 10 Ks and 0 walks in spring training. Maybe wanted to see how the adjustments they made played out a little longer. Three score innings in AAA with one walk and 4 Ks and then he was the first person to come up when they needed an arm.
But they looked hard at both guys and said "Logan Gillaspie is the better pitcher right now". He must not have looked like this in the Spring.
Not really trying to say or infer anything. The whole evolution is incredible. Hope whatever he found is sustainable. Even if its just a one-year wonder like we're now wondering about Perez, it'll have a major impact.
Posted 11 May 2023 - 01:26 PM
Not really trying to say or infer anything. The whole evolution is incredible. Hope whatever he found is sustainable. Even if its just a one-year wonder like we're now wondering about Perez, it'll have a major impact.
They flashed his first 18 innings last year versus his next ~18 innings this year stats and without looking anything else up, I'd bet there's no player ever that has had that kind of a turn around.
Since no-one has never not given up a run, I'll suggest he'll eventually give one up...'cause, you know, history of MLB....but it's still amazing.
Posted 11 May 2023 - 03:18 PM
Ugh. Was discussed in another thread. I hate making this assumption
You hate the truth because it doesn't align with what you want to believe.
If you are good at identifying, acquiring and developing Talent, that is the key to strong farm-system depth and opportunity not throwing away seasons to get a better draft pick.
We're competing, even added to the bullpen in the offseason and still found Cano. That can't happen, right?
Posted 11 May 2023 - 03:59 PM
Posted 11 May 2023 - 04:55 PM
But they looked hard at both guys and said "Logan Gillaspie is the better pitcher right now". He must not have looked like this in the Spring.
Not really trying to say or infer anything. The whole evolution is incredible. Hope whatever he found is sustainable. Even if its just a one-year wonder like we're now wondering about Perez, it'll have a major impact.
Posted 11 May 2023 - 05:56 PM
Assuming you could call up Minn and be like lets trade for Cano and it would be simple trade is a horrible assumption. If you arent tradng a major league player as part of the ackage for him what do you realistically think Minn would want for him. Lets say this was the offseaon. You dont have a clue how Minn valued him individually. Being a secondary piece to Povich in a Lopez deal does not mean he wasnt valued by them. Doesnt mean you couldve traded cash for him or a AAAA player for him or an 18 lottery ticket for him.
I think he'd (like many guys we acquire) be a fairly easy add. He was 28 and they had him on the 40 so if they want to use his 40-spot differently, they have to pass him through waivers. You throw a guy like him in a deal because you know you aren't keeping him on the 40 so there's really no downside. For any player in this type box, you just trade a better 40-man (ie a guy that doesn't have to be on the 40).
My answer on the Lopez trade isn't really do you trade him or not, like everything, it's everything you are doing so....trade Lopez but execute B, C and D and make the team better, great.
Posted 11 May 2023 - 07:50 PM
Posted 11 May 2023 - 09:38 PM
Posted 11 May 2023 - 10:05 PM
WTF are you on about. There is nothing Im saying I dont absolutely believe to be true.
Damn, I really wish people would be more intellectually honest.
Posted 17 May 2023 - 08:11 AM
They showed a list of pitchers who've started the season with 0 ER and 0 BB with at least 14-15 IP. Pretty impressive list. Rivera, Eckersley, Hoffman, etc on it. And Cano doesn't have much further to go to make it to the top spot.
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