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[TwentyThirtyFive]

He probably only starts 3 of the next 6 with them likely facing LHers (Ragans, Detmers and Anderson).

Maybe sitting and being able to breath a bit will help. Sucks we are about to hit another stretch of lefties though

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I think his actual performance isn't the key here. I think there are two factors that really only the staff who sees him up close every day can assess.

 

1. What is his mental state? If he's still upbeat then you keep him up. If he's getting down then a refresh may be needed.

 

AND

 

2. What is more valuable to his development? Sending him down to get back on track or battle through it at this level?

[JeremyStrain]

I think his actual performance isn't the key here. I think there are two factors that really only the staff who sees him up close every day can assess.

 

1. What is his mental state? If he's still upbeat then you keep him up. If he's getting down then a refresh may be needed.

 

AND

 

2. What is more valuable to his development? Sending him down to get back on track or battle through it at this level?

He's probably in the trickiest category for prospects. Send him down and he tears the cover off the ball, but he's not hitting here yet.

 

I think you've got to keep him up and let him work through it. He will get there.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Agian, I was the biggest advocate for letting him work through things. YOu cant be striking out at 50% and hitting .100 and stay for very long. Of course those type of stats are going to negatively affect your psyche/confidence BTW. We will see what the next 7-10 days bring. I think he gets at least that long but he cant be a total zero up here. We are trying to win. Funny that was the line used by those that were crying about not making the team out of ST and why he wasnt called up earlier. We have been in a worse place at 2b since he was recalled vs before he was recaled so far. As underwhelming as Urias or Mateo are as everyday options at 2b they may be better in the short term

[85Knight]

I'm no hitting coach but I think Jackson needs to swing at the first pitch that's anywhere near the plate. Forget being patient and working the count. Getting behind is too overwhelming for him and he's not getting the close calls. Swing early and see what happens.

[mdrunning]

Getting behind in the count and not catching up to the high heat. Those are two of Holliday's biggest problems right now.

[Mackus]

4 walks last night for Holliday and had a 3-hit game earlier in the week, but overall a slow/weird return to AAA for him.  He's 4/20 with 2 2B and 6 BB.  Only 2 K.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

4 walks last night for Holliday and had a 3-hit game earlier in the week, but overall a slow/weird return to AAA for him.  He's 4/20 with 2 2B and 6 BB.  Only 2 K.

I wonder if this is a reflection on AAA pitchers being too afraid of him versus big league guys who just go after him? The 6 walks to only 2 Ks is totally weird.

[makoman]

In his last 5 games before he was promoted he was 4-17 with 1 2B, 9 BB, and 3 K, which isn't all that different. I doubt it means much of anything.

 

It is good though that he went down and immediately stopped striking out. Yes MLB pitchers are better and all samples are small, but 50% to 10% K rate is quite a difference, it would have been disappointing if he went down and continued to be in that funk.

[BSLMikeLowe]

With just 20 ABs it's hard to tell much. Did he make good contact on some of those 16 outs? As long as the K #s are low, I take it as a good sign.

[Mackus]

5 hits (including a homer), 6 walks and no strikeouts in his past 3 games.  Brings him up to 282/482/426/943 since returning to Norfolk.

[weird-O]

I suppose he just needs to get those at bats in, and eventually he'll be able to make the transition to the big leagues. Because he clearly has nothing to learn at the minor league level, and clearly isn't a MLB caliber player (yet).

[Mashed Potatoes]

I suppose he just needs to get those at bats in, and eventually he'll be able to make the transition to the big leagues. Because he clearly has nothing to learn at the minor league level, and clearly isn't a MLB caliber player (yet).

 

Not necessarily, the last 28 days in the minors he has a .707 OPS.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

He needs real time down in AAA. Let him get the mechanics worked out and completely reset

[BobPhelan]

Homer and a double today. Stayed on a low and away offspeed pitch and lifted it out which is a good sign. I’d still give Mayo a shot before Jackson again.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Homer and a double today. Stayed on a low and away offspeed pitch and lifted it out which is a good sign. I’d still give Mayo a shot before Jackson again.

Seems hes been inconsistent since going back but the numbers in a lot of ways are irrelevant. Is he making the adjustments to be better in MLB the second time around. Thats what matters

[Mike B]

Homer and a double today. Stayed on a low and away offspeed pitch and lifted it out which is a good sign. I’d still give Mayo a shot before Jackson again.

I think Mayo for Urias could happen soon. The Orioles need another right handed bat.  I think we will see Ramon get traded for someone we may never hear from, but that is baseball.

The issue will be how many AB's they give Mayo and can he produce defensively.

 

THey have a good problem.  When Holliday comes back who loses at bats if Mayo is on the team.  Mounty, Gunnar and Westy are all going to play all most everyday. 

[weird-O]

I think Mayo for Urias could happen soon. The Orioles need another right handed bat.  I think we will see Ramon get traded for someone we may never hear from, but that is baseball.

The issue will be how many AB's they give Mayo and can he produce defensively.

 

THey have a good problem.  When Holliday comes back who loses at bats if Mayo is on the team.  Mounty, Gunnar and Westy are all going to play all most everyday. 

I have to agree about Urias. He can be an everyday player, but not for the O's. I'm sure he loves being on a competitive team. But most players would rather be someplace where they get to take the field on a regular basis.  

[BSLChrisStoner]

IL elbow inflammation.

[Slidemaster]

I hope I'm wrong, but it feels like Holliday's meteoric rise is hitting a skid. He hasn't done particularly well at AAA since going back down, and now this. Feels possible at this rate that we might not see him with the O's again until next summer at the earliest.