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Balt Sun: Orioles altering Camden Yards’ left-field dimensions amid ballpark’s historic home run binge


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#21 Old Man

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 09:01 AM

I don’t like tall walls. I like seeing homers attempt to get robbed.

Curious how the construction works. To move the fences back 30 feet is a lot of lost seats. 10 rows across 4 or 5 sections. That is a lot of concrete demolition too. Hauling it out of there, laying the sod, new warning track. Or is it easier to move the infield closer to the backstop? And if too close, your only demoing like 30 seats to put a new backstop in.

I don’t know. Seems like a lot to get done, and done right in only 2 months.

Maybe they know something we dont about the CBA talks. :) :) :)



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 09:23 AM

The OCD part of me is worried that the LF lower and upper decks will now have different footprints.  But this change is long overdue - the 364 ft power alley was one of the few design flaws of Camden Yards.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 09:48 AM

I didnt see it as a design flaw, its the same for both teams.

 

To me, it was just a quirk of the park.

 

I mean, look at Polo Grounds, before the Giants moved, you could have 5 outfields and not cover all the ground. 

 

I would never want all 30+ parks to have the same exact footprint.

 

But, thats me.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:16 AM

I didnt see it as a design flaw, its the same for both teams.

 

To me, it was just a quirk of the park.

 

I mean, look at Polo Grounds, before the Giants moved, you could have 5 outfields and not cover all the ground. 

 

I would never want all 30+ parks to have the same exact footprint.

 

But, thats me.

 

It's a design flaw in that teams that play in pitchers' parks tend to be the teams that win.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:20 AM

30 feet back and adding 5’ on the wall sounds pretty significant. Curious to see the impact, not just on HRs but the ripple effects too. Puts more of a premium on LF defense.

I have a suspicion this has been in Elias's head since he got here.  He has been consistent in drafting athletic type outfielders and also left handed power. which will help us maximize the right field dimensions.

Put a speedy guy in left and center to cover the increased ground and have the left handed power take aim at the RF wall.

Does CY become a triples park, in left and left center?


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:32 AM

Long overdue. Glad to read this.

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:35 AM

With the increased height of the wall, I'm sure they'll be able to add more advertisements. That was likely the point where the Angelos family was sold on this project.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:37 AM

With the increased height of the wall, I'm sure they'll be able to add more advertisements. That was likely the point where the Angelos family was sold on this project.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:53 AM

With the increased height of the wall, I'm sure they'll be able to add more advertisements. That was likely the point where the Angelos family was sold on this project.

I think this was more of a competitive thing driven by Elias and Mejdal, but the extra ad $$ certainly appealed to the Brothers Angelos.  I really don't care, because it is happening all over baseball.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:54 AM

Is anyone else wondering why we have not seen an artist's depiction of what the new dimensions will look like?


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:56 AM

https://imgur.com/a/XElRW3v

^ That's a quick doodle of what I think they're doing. It would be 390 to the LF bend, about 393-395 to the power alley behind the 364 sign, and 424 to the deepest part of the park.

It’s a hell of a shot to hit the upper bullpen. I think maybe only a few times a year one lands up there.

It will be interesting. I’m sure we’ll see some stat casts where a game ending fly out would have been a walk off homer.
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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:57 AM

With the increased height of the wall, I'm sure they'll be able to add more advertisements. That was likely the point where the Angelos family was sold on this project.

But the Angelos do not own the stadium.

 

So the Maryland Stadium Authority would be the main recipient of monies.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 10:59 AM

I have a suspicion this has been in Elias's head since he got here.  He has been consistent in drafting athletic type outfielders and also left handed power. which will help us maximize the right field dimensions.

Put a speedy guy in left and center to cover the increased ground and have the left handed power take aim at the RF wall.

Does CY become a triples park, in left and left center?

I think Elias wants stronger defensive outfields who can hit. Regardless of the stadium, better ball players will always benefit the team.



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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:00 AM

Defintitely think the main motive was strategic. Elias continues to build my trust more and more.
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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:09 AM

But the Angelos do not own the stadium.

 

So the Maryland Stadium Authority would be the main recipient of monies.

That is not how it works. The Orioles lease the stadium, and they are the ones that run and benefit from the advertisements. 


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:24 AM

That is not how it works. The Orioles lease the stadium, and they are the ones that run and benefit from the advertisements. 

I listened to an interview with Thomas Kelso of the MSA this morning and it sounds like the state gets part of all revenue, so maybe they both profit.

FWIW, it is not a bad thing if the Angelos's are making money.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:25 AM

I listened to an interview with Thomas Kelso of the MSA this morning and it sounds like the state gets part of all revenue, so maybe they both profit.

FWIW, it is not a bad thing if the Angelos's are making money.

I listened to the same interview. Pretty interesting stuff.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:36 AM

(1) Jack on Twitter: "Hey #Orioles fans, next season, the left-field wall is moving back by about 30 ft. The O's haven't released a render yet, so I wanted to share what it'll probably look like. #birdland #Oriolepark https://t.co/jlWUUvQmUN" / Twitter


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:44 AM

Fenway has the Green Monster. We've got the Gleyber Torres wall.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:48 AM

This seems to link to an old (original?) summary of the lease agreement with all sorts of info on percentages...

https://www.google.c...YhYh8Khr5exwWJL




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