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[Biggsy]

Maybe.

It frustrates me when people say 'its just a sprain'. A 'torn ACL' is a sprain that's severe enough that it won't heal on its own. Same with UCLs.

Its a pet peeve of mine and I know it. I blame Will Carroll. This, along with 'could care less', are two things I just can't let go.

Their is a difference between a sprain and a tear. A grade 1 or 2 ACL injury is a sprain, where the ligament has tearing, but remains intact, and has the ability to heal on its own with rehab. A grade 3 is where the ligament has partially, or completely torn and is no longer intact , and will require surgery for it to completely heal.

There is a difference between a sprain and a tear.

*source* the surgeon who diagnosed, and fixed my torn ACL.

[McNulty]

Their is a difference between a sprain and a tear. A grade 1 or 2 ACL injury is a sprain, where the ligament has tearing, but remains intact, and has the ability to heal on its own with rehab. A grade 3 is where the ligament has partially, or completely torn and is no longer intact , and will require surgery for it to completely heal.

There is a difference between a sprain and a tear.

*source* the surgeon who diagnosed, and fixed my torn ACL.

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[Biggsy]

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Your source is a sports writer for bleacher report who is a self proclaimed "health expert". Mine is Dr Hinton out of Baltimore who I specifically asked the exact thing in question here, because I was under the same impression that an ACL tear was also a sprain, and he corrected me. He said a sprain are tears within the ligament, but it remains intact, and has the ability to heal on it's own. A "tear" is when the ligament is no longer intact. And he considered a sprain and a tear to be two completely separate type of injuries.

In the end it's probably semantics. 🤣

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Your source is a sports writer for bleacher report who is a self proclaimed "health expert". Mine is Dr Hinton out of Baltimore who I specifically asked the exact thing in question here, because I was under the same impression that an ACL tear was also a sprain, and he corrected me. He said a sprain are tears within the ligament, but it remains intact, and has the ability to heal on it's own. A "tear" is when the ligament is no longer intact. And he considered a sprain and a tear to be two completely separate type of injuries.

In the end it's probably semantics. 🤣

Wait you finally got surgery on that thing? Why no return to the bball court?

[McNulty]

Your source is a sports writer for bleacher report who is a self proclaimed "health expert". Mine is Dr Hinton out of Baltimore who I specifically asked the exact thing in question here, because I was under the same impression that an ACL tear was also a sprain, and he corrected me. He said a sprain are tears within the ligament, but it remains intact, and has the ability to heal on it's own. A "tear" is when the ligament is no longer intact. And he considered a sprain and a tear to be two completely separate type of injuries.

In the end it's probably semantics. 🤣

If you don’t know who Will Carroll is then I can’t help you boss.

[hallas]

Your source is a sports writer for bleacher report who is a self proclaimed "health expert". Mine is Dr Hinton out of Baltimore who I specifically asked the exact thing in question here, because I was under the same impression that an ACL tear was also a sprain, and he corrected me. He said a sprain are tears within the ligament, but it remains intact, and has the ability to heal on it's own. A "tear" is when the ligament is no longer intact. And he considered a sprain and a tear to be two completely separate type of injuries.

In the end it's probably semantics. 🤣

For what it's worth, Will Carroll received an award from the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons for some of his journalistic work. So he's not entirely self-proclaimed.

[Slidemaster]

Calling a sprain a tear may be medically accurate technically, but functionally they are very different. That's what matters.

[makoman]

Calling a sprain a tear may be medically accurate technically, but functionally they are very different. That's what matters.

I agree. I think almost everyone knows at this point that a sprain is a tear, because the pedants have made it their mission to let us know. But whenever anyone is using the vernacular they are using those terms for different things, with a sprain obviously being much milder (though still serious at times).

[Mike B]

Brandon Knight is not going to report to the Ravens citing mental health reasons.

[McNulty]

What’s a pendants, Walter?

[BaltBird 24]

Brandon Knight is not going to report to the Ravens citing mental health reasons.

Oh, ok. So is he going to retire?

[Mike in STL]

Oh, ok. So is he going to retire?

I have no idea how this works. His statement said he "looks forward to returning next season". I don't know if the Ravens have his rights, how long he can stay on the did not report list. (Didn't know there was such a thing).

[Mackus]

What’s a pendants, Walter?

 

I dabbled in pedantism once.  Not in 'Nam, of course.

[Steve55]

I have no idea how this works. His statement said he "looks forward to returning next season". I don't know if the Ravens have his rights, how long he can stay on the did not report list. (Didn't know there was such a thing).

 

If he wants to return to Dallas, let it be next season. The Ravens should keep him on the list. A few weeks of no pay might repair his health.

[Mike B]

Oh, ok. So is he going to retire?

The Ravens put him on the inactive list.  I suspect Jerry Jones is behind this, in some way.

[Biggsy]

If you don’t know who Will Carroll is then I can’t help you boss.

Maybe you're right. All I know is that Dr Hinton has won multiple awards for his work in the orthopedic field. He was the lead team physician for the Ravens, and at one point was the president of the Maryland Orthopedic Association. And was a sitting member on the NFL's health and injury prevention committee. No offense to Will Carroll, but I think I'll take the word of the guy who has spent his life committed and dedicated to orthopedic health, and actually fixed my ACL, over a guy who doesn't even have a doctorate in any health field.

[Biggsy]

Wait you finally got surgery on that thing? Why no return to the bball court?

Career is a little more important at the moment. Can't afford to miss another 12 weeks. 🤣

[Mackus]

Maybe you're right. All I know is that Dr Hinton has won multiple awards for his work in the orthopedic field. He was the lead team physician for the Ravens, and at one point was the president of the Maryland Orthopedic Association. And was a sitting member on the NFL's health and injury prevention committee. No offense to Will Carroll, but I think I'll take the word of the guy who has spent his life committed and dedicated to orthopedic health, and actually fixed my ACL, over a guy who doesn't even have a doctorate in any health field.

 

The two sources don't disagree.  They're saying the same thing.  Sprains are small tears.  Tears are full tears.  Both involve tearing to the ligament.

 

It's like a flat tire versus a blowout.  Both are due to a failure of the tire.  One is much more severe and we use different terms to describe the different severity of the underlying affliction.

[Slidemaster]

The two sources don't disagree. They're saying the same thing. Sprains are small tears. Tears are full tears. Both involve tearing to the ligament.

It's like a flat tire versus a blowout. Both are due to a failure of the tire. One is much more severe and we use different terms to describe the different severity of the underlying affliction.

I mean...sure. Sore muscles after working out are also torn. Every player technically tears most of their muscles every week. Calling a sprain a tear still feels kind of like someone trying too hard to be smart. When you have to say "well technically..." before you make your point, it probably wasn't worth making.

[McNulty]

Just yesterday Jeremy Fowler tweeted this:
Source says Von Miller’s X-Ray came back ‘clean,’ not returning to the game out of caution. So, appears no structural damage for Miller.

That’s a high ankle sprain, which is structural damage! My entire point is, for hardcore fans like us, you need to know the difference. Big J journalists will get it wrong all the time.