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[Oriole85]

Just saw this from Buster Olney and couldn't agree more (http://insider.espn.... ... e-kind-mlb - Insider):

1. Buehrle believes he was lied to by the Marlins. He can join the club.
That's why the saying goes: Get it in writing.

[Mike B]

Loria lied to them all including the city of Miami.

[Oriole85]

Loria lied to them all including the city of Miami.

No kidding, but unless they have something in writing such as "The Marlins must maintain a payroll in the top 75% of MLB," it's hard to feel bad for them. Simply put, bad baseball beats no baseball. And DuPuy gave them a ultimatium, "build the stadium or else." Even though, not a lot of real options existed where the Marlins could move to, bad baseball beats no baseball. The cities always get screwed in these type of things. Sure in hindsight, it's easy to say, "we thought these Marlins would be different." But the writing was clearly on the wall, with the heavily back-loaded contracts in terms of a plan B.

[Oriole85]

Miami Herald: In popularity poll, Miami Marlins’ Jeffrey Loria ekes out a win over Fidel Castro

http://www.miamihera...mi-marlins.html

[Oriole85]

CBS Sports: Like it or not, Marlins' Giancarlo Stanton isn't going to be traded

http://www.cbssports...ng-to-be-traded

Beinfest wouldn't address whether Stanton might be traded, but other people with Marlins connections say he absolutely will be a Marlin in 2013. And executives from other teams who have inquired agree they see zero evidence Stanton might be moved.

[BSLChrisStoner]

Beyond the Boxscore: Should the Marlins listen on Stanton?
http://www.beyondthe...ancarlo-stanton

[DJ MC]

http://www.baseballp... ... leid=19297

[Oriole85]

ESPN: Chone Figgins signs with Marlins

http://espn.go.com/m...r-league-invite

[DJ MC]

Good for him. Seattle was stupid for signing him to that contract, but I think he can still be useful.

Especially when your starting third baseman was let go by the Phillies due to age.

[Pedro Cerrano]

Well that should appease Giancarlo.

Hardy harhar.

[FlavaDave10]

http://www.baseballp... ... leid=19297

 

More of "blocked by the fact that the Orioles don't feel like giving up their only 3 good prospects for him". 

[FlavaDave10]

Marlins Sign David Aardsma To A Minor League Deal

 

http://www.mlbtrader...on-orioles.html

[SammyBirdland]

Marlins Sign David Aardsma To A Minor League Deal http://www.mlbtrader...on-orioles.html

I like Aardsma. I hope he bounces and then finds a way to get far away from the Marlins.

[FlavaDave10]

I like Aardsma. I hope he bounces and then finds a way to get far away from the Marlins.

 

Me too. Kind of wish the Orioles would have taken a flyer on him, but I can understand why Aardsma would want to get back in the majors quickly. And yeah, the Marlins... wow. That lineup is embarrassing without Stanton. 

[SammyBirdland]

Not to mention the owner is a shyster.

[You Play to Win the Game]

OTL is really giving it to Loria right now on ESPN... And they should. He really is quite a disgrace to the game.

[BSLChrisStoner]

Beyond The Boxscore: Is Miami's offense the worst ever?
http://www.beyondthe...-the-worst-ever

[Mackus]

http://www.cbssports...er-mike-redmond

 

Loria up to it again.  He mandated that they switch starters for a doubleheader hours before the first game.  I really wish Showtime was still following the Marlins.  Would have loved to see footage of that decision and relaying it to the manager.

 

Redmond is a tool for not standing to his choice.  Not that it matters if those crappy players respect him or not, but you can pretty much guarantee they don't.

[You Play to Win the Game]

Loria is such a prick, seriously.

 

I did not realize this was the case though:

 

Standard protocol for doubleheaders is that veterans choose which game they want to pitch.

 

Learn something new every day, not that it's a big deal or anything.

[Oriole85]

http://www.cbssports...er-mike-redmond

 

Loria up to it again.  He mandated that they switch starters for a doubleheader hours before the first game.  I really wish Showtime was still following the Marlins.  Would have loved to see footage of that decision and relaying it to the manager.

 

Redmond is a tool for not standing to his choice.  Not that it matters if those crappy players respect him or not, but you can pretty much guarantee they don't.

Not that I disagree with you so much, but as the article mentioned, he's in a no-win situation so I can relate to where he's coming from. He knows who signs his paychecks. He knows that while this is a bad job (by MLB managing standards), that he needs follow the chain of command to some extent to get future gigs. He's not exactly Lou Pinella or Davey Johnson, where he can do what he wants without fear of being blackballed. Loria could easily fire him on the spot for insubornation if he acted in defiance (he almost did with Joe Girardi). And I have no idea what his income situation so there's that. He was previously a Single-A manager before this and isn't the most recognizable name. Managing the Marlins sure beats riding buses and staying in motels. While I'm sure he would've won points with many, going against the grain could've backfired.

 

If this happened with Buck OTOH, I could see him just telling Angelos to fire him. He has a great track record, has made good money, and worst case scenario, would probably be working at ESPN, and he'd likely, be hired some team with his resume and O's turnaround.

 

When you hire someone like Redmond, you are doing so, knowing that you can pull the strings moreso than if you hired a proven manager.