I feel like Manny should be treated differently from other PED guys given he actually got suspended but that might be my hill to die on
Also I think Bobby Abreu has a really good case, higher career OBP than Tony Gwynn and a .303/.416/.513 slash in his prime as a Phillie is pretty strong
Interesting, Abreu, never felt like a Hof player when I watched his career. He has the numbers though, but I still lean to the Hall of very good.
I am a pain in the ass when it comes to guys taking short cuts, so I say no on Bonds, Clemens. Manny etc. I think they are all HOF guys before they went steroids though.
I don't think Vizquel is a HOF guy, but that is just me. To be honest I would have never voted for Ozzie Smith.
When I saw your vote for Helton, my orginal thought was no, but I went and checked his stats and my second thought was I don't know what I am talking about.
Colorado certainly helped him but a 414 OBP and a 953 OPS, deserves the Hall when combined with averaging over 100 RBI and 27 HR's per season.