133 replies to this topic

[BobPhelan]

He’s back. Good trade continues to get better, especially if they can fix him again.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Well then.

[Chris B]

Isnt he ineligible for the playoffs as a post-Sept 1 roster addition or is that an old rule?

[Mackus]

Isnt he ineligible for the playoffs as a post-Sept 1 roster addition or is that an old rule?

 

That rule is still in effect.  He won't be on the postseason roster.

 

Pretty intrigued to see if him being back here will help him mentally and allow him to get back to pitching well.

[BobPhelan]

He has a year of control left.

[Mike B]

Maybe coming home lets him settle down the emotional stuff and find his form.  It is worth a shot.

[BSLChrisStoner]

He's got plenty of arm talent.  Also seemed to a very well liked guy in the clubhouse.
Mechanically he could get out of whack.  Also possible other teams weren't maximizing his abilities in-terms of utilizing info.
The year of team control is great.  
Not sure he'll immediately find himself here in September, but would expect him to do so next Spring and make the team.

[Mackus]

The control is only if they tender him or can agree to a 1-year deal. Would likely be less than they paid Givens this year, so guess I'd lean against them nontendering him.

[BobPhelan]

He's got plenty of arm talent. Also seemed to a very well liked guy in the clubhouse.
Mechanically he could get out of whack. Also possible other teams weren't maximizing his abilities in-terms of utilizing info.
The year of team control is great.
Not sure he'll immediately find himself here in September, but would expect him to do so next Spring and make the team.

His four seam fastball usage quadrupled after he left here. Get him to use his sinker again and get that confidence back.

[85Knight]

If they can get him back to what he was and he helps us win the division, what a move. I keep saying all Cinderella stories need miracles.

[russsnyder]

Good low risk move IMO

[mdrunning]

Cool, we can trade him sometime in 2024 for two pitching prospects.

[You Play to Win the Game]

He’s back. Good trade continues to get better, especially if they can fix him again.

Weird time of year to be fixing someone isn’t it? That’s my only gripe with this move right now.

If they keep him low lev, I’m good with it. Welcome back, Jorge.

[Pedro Cerrano]

What a trade!

[BaltBird 24]

Might be able to strike lighting in a bottle, but looking like we maximized the best 4 months of his baseball career. I'm not expecting we'll ever see close to April-July 2022 Jorge Lopez again.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

As recently as Apr or May of this year there were still fools bitching about Lopez after his first 12 innings were good. Still crying about Mancini too. Fast forward to Sept and Lopez is back after being released twice. Mancini also released twice. Oops.

This isnt trying to rehash the trade process as of Aug 1 of '22. If you felt we should've kept both a year ago I get it. I didnt love the return for Lopez at the time. Let the process keep playing out moving forward. Bitching about Mancini and Lopez not being on the '23 roster didnt age well.

[mdrunning]

I'm not quite sure why the Orioles would make a waiver claim now for a guy they aren't likely to tender in the offseason and is ineligible to pitch for them this postseason. No one is going to pay his arbitration number to begin with, so why not wait until the offseason and sign him to a minor league deal then?

 

What the Orioles could do is turn around and waive Lopez since it isn't likely anyone else will put in a claim, then once he likely clears, they can send him to Norfolk. As his situation stands right now, I don't think he has a minor league option.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

I'm not quite sure why the Orioles would make a waiver claim now for a guy they aren't likely to tender in the offseason and is ineligible to pitch for them this postseason. No one is going to pay his arbitration number to begin with, so why not wait until the offseason and sign him to a minor league deal then?

What the Orioles could do is turn around and waive Lopez since it isn't likely anyone else will put in a claim, then once he likely clears, they can send him to Norfolk. As his situation stands right now, I don't think he has a minor league option.

I just think its a shot in the dark. It does tell me how uncomfortable they are with their righties behind Cano. In particular Fuji, Joey K, and Voth. Then Baker and Baumann behind them in AAA. We now have 1 reliable RH BP arm. Webb has been fine here and I get why hes been thrust into high lev spots but he isnt getting my seal of approval on being reliable yet.

[BobPhelan]

Weird time of year to be fixing someone isn’t it? That’s my only gripe with this move right now.

If they keep him low lev, I’m good with it. Welcome back, Jorge.

 

My thinking is he's another arm for now, if they get him back on track and feel like its sustainable he's under control for next year which could be valuable especially if Bautista has to go under the knife. Worth a shot and because he was so bad this year his salary isn't going to raise much if at all in arbitration.

[makoman]

My thinking is he's another arm for now, if they get him back on track and feel like its sustainable he's under control for next year which could be valuable especially if Bautista has to go under the knife. Worth a shot and because he was so bad this year his salary isn't going to raise much if at all in arbitration.

Yeah I was thinking he’s not going to get a big raise after this year. He’s making 3.5M, probably at most like the 5M Givens is making but not likely that high even. They have a month to see if they think he is fixable. But people are acting like a non tender is a foregone conclusion, I don’t think that’s true.

Even in a pennant race the bar just isn’t that high for 9th guy in the bullpen or whatever he is right now.