I don't understand how anybody could rank Tate so highly given his age and performance.
BSL: Baltimore Orioles Top 30 Prospects As 2018 Ends
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Posted 29 November 2018 - 10:59 AM
BSL (Top 29, with removal of Mullins)
1) Mountcastle
2) Diaz
3) DL Hall
4) Hays
5) Akin
6) Ortiz
7) Rodriguez
8) Tate
9) Lowther
10) Pop
11) Harvey
12) Knight
13) Hanifee
14) Kline
15) Carroll
16) McKenna
17) Kremer
18) Encarnacion
19) Phillips
20) Dietz
21) Carmona
22) Cumberland
23) Stewart
24) Wells
25) Baumann
26) Cervenka
27) Gonzalez
28) Grenier
29) Palmeiro
Baseball America:
1. Yusniel Diaz2. D L Hall
3. Ryan Mountcastle
4. Austin Hays
5. Grayson Rodriguez
6. Keegan Akin
7. Hunter Harvey
8. Ryan McKenna
9. Dean Kremer
10. Blaine Knight
FanGraphs:
1) Rodriguez
2) Mountcastle
3) Diaz4) Tate
5) DL Hall
6) Ortiz
7) Kremer
8) Akin
9) Carroll
10) Hays
HM) Lowther, Adam Hall, Encarnacion
Orioles Hangout
1 Hall
2 Rodriguez
3 Mountcastle
4 Kremer
5 Diaz
6 Hays
7 Harvey
8 Lowther
9 Knight
10 Hanifee
11 Akin
12 Ortiz
13 McKenna
14 Kline
15 Rom
16 Pop
17 Tate
18 Bannon
19 A Hall
20 Baumann
21 Wells
22 Encarnacion
23 Grenier
24 Stewart
25 Carmona
26 Carroll
27 Cumberland
28 Means
29 Bishop
30 Dietz
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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:12 PM
Balt Sun: Five takeaways from the Orioles' top prospect rankings on Baseball America
BA Top 10:
1. Yusniel Diaz
2. D L Hall
3. Ryan Mountcastle
4. Austin Hays
5. Grayson Rodriguez
6. Keegan Akin
7. Hunter Harvey
8. Ryan McKenna
9. Dean Kremer
10. Blaine Knight
Not sure I would have Diaz at the top, but our top 10 has a better look on it, this year.
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Posted 30 November 2018 - 10:31 PM
My 2 cents worth, and frankly it is over priced/
1. Hall
2 Rodriquez
3. Diaz
4. Aiken
5. Hays
6. Mountcastle
7. Kremer
8. Knight
9. Harvey
10. Brandon Kline
Just from reading the posts here an and some of the on line stuff....we need infielders
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Posted 01 December 2018 - 09:54 AM
I like the "other" Hall too. Exciting kid. Thought he might crack the top 10.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:28 AM
I agree with Baseball America’ choice of Diaz as the Orioles #1 minor leaguer. Diaz’s early struggles after the trade with Dodgers were counterbalanced by Eutaw Street Report:
“After slashing .314/.428/.477 in Double-A Tulsa to start the year, the 22-year-old outfielder got off to a rocky start in Bowie, batting .239/.329/.403 in 38 games to close out the year. However, you can make the case that this can be chalked up to taking time to settle in with a new organization. He batted an uninspiring .182/.297/.273 in his first 16 games in Bowie, but turned it around with a .278/.352/.494 line with four homers in his final 22 games of the year.“
The BSL article mentioned Mountcastle as a former Future Games participant but Diaz also played in that game. Diaz can field as well as hit. Mountcastle is an all-hit no-glove player destined to be at worse a designated hitter and at best a backup first baseman once the O’s get rid of Trumbo and insert Trey Mancini at first.
“After slashing .314/.428/.477 in Double-A Tulsa to start the year, the 22-year-old outfielder got off to a rocky start in Bowie, batting .239/.329/.403 in 38 games to close out the year. However, you can make the case that this can be chalked up to taking time to settle in with a new organization. He batted an uninspiring .182/.297/.273 in his first 16 games in Bowie, but turned it around with a .278/.352/.494 line with four homers in his final 22 games of the year.“
The BSL article mentioned Mountcastle as a former Future Games participant but Diaz also played in that game. Diaz can field as well as hit. Mountcastle is an all-hit no-glove player destined to be at worse a designated hitter and at best a backup first baseman once the O’s get rid of Trumbo and insert Trey Mancini at first.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 12:54 PM
I agree with Baseball America’ choice of Diaz as the Orioles #1 minor leaguer. Diaz’s early struggles after the trade with Dodgers were counterbalanced by Eutaw Street Report:
“After slashing .314/.428/.477 in Double-A Tulsa to start the year, the 22-year-old outfielder got off to a rocky start in Bowie, batting .239/.329/.403 in 38 games to close out the year. However, you can make the case that this can be chalked up to taking time to settle in with a new organization. He batted an uninspiring .182/.297/.273 in his first 16 games in Bowie, but turned it around with a .278/.352/.494 line with four homers in his final 22 games of the year.“
The BSL article mentioned Mountcastle as a former Future Games participant but Diaz also played in that game. Diaz can field as well as hit. Mountcastle is an all-hit no-glove player destined to be at worse a designated hitter and at best a backup first baseman once the O’s get rid of Trumbo and insert Trey Mancini at first.
What did they say that counterbalanced it? They made an assumption that he needed to settle in. Its probably accurate but its hardly 100% fact.
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Posted 03 December 2018 - 09:12 PM
What did they say that counterbalanced it? They made an assumption that he needed to settle in. Its probably accurate but its hardly 100% fact.
Diaz initially struggled and then picked it up after getting acclimated at Bowie. No one said it was my way or the highway. It’s just my opinion. Never stated it was a fact.
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 08:27 AM
Seth mentioned that MLB Pipeline has slotted Martin at #13 in their O's Top 30.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 04:48 PM
working on Orioles list, this system strikes me as generally under-rated. Decently solid group of B-type prospects, needs more impact in general but not an empty system at this stage.
I have the first run grades for the Orioles done and will start up on the writeups tomorrow. Right now I have 15 guys with cases for some variety of Grade B or B-. They lack A-types certainly but there is mid-range talent.
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Posted 08 January 2019 - 06:28 PM
working on Orioles list, this system strikes me as generally under-rated. Decently solid group of B-type prospects, needs more impact in general but not an empty system at this stage.
I have the first run grades for the Orioles done and will start up on the writeups tomorrow. Right now I have 15 guys with cases for some variety of Grade B or B-. They lack A-types certainly but there is mid-range talent.
This mirrors a lot of what we have all been saying.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:31 PM
grades subject to change as winter progresses. Also note that tier is more important than exact rankings once you get past the first few slots. Your mileage may vary of course.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:31 PM
1) Yusniel Diaz, OF, Grade B/B+: Age 22, Cuban signed by Los Angeles Dodgers in 2015, over to Baltimore in Manny Machado deal; hit .314/.428/.477 in 220 at-bats in Double-A before the trade, .239/.329/.403 in 134 at-bats afterward; combined for 11 homers, 59 walks, 67 strikeouts
good approach and batting eye, still learning to tap his raw power and keep his hitting mechanics consistent; range and arm should work very well in right field but he can handle center if you need him; type of guy who could hit .280, .340 OBP, 20 homers for years, eta 2019
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2) Ryan Mountcastle, 3B, Grade B/B+: Age 21, first round pick from high school in Florida in 2015; hit .297/.341/.464 with 13 homers, 26 walks, 79 strikeouts in 394 at-bats in Double-A; everyone loves the bat and I agree, walk rate is lower than ideal
but he keeps the whiffs under control while hitting for both power and average; main doubt is defense, with mediocre range and very weak arm strength that could move him to left field or first base eventually; bat can be special however; ETA 2020.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:32 PM
3) D.L. Hall, LHP, Grade B/B+: Age 21, first round pick in 2017 from high school in Georgia; posted 2.10 ERA in 94 innings in Low-A, 100/42 K/BB, just 68 hits; big stuff for lefty, tops at 97 and is consistently 93-94; both curveball and change-up flash plus and have improved;
K/IP and H/IP marks confirm reports of strong stuff; main problem is erratic command, walk rate will need to come down as he moves up but the ceiling is high, possible number two starter if it all comes together; ETA 2021.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:32 PM
4) Grayson Rodriguez, RHP, Grade B: Age 19, first round pick in 2018 from high school in Texas; 1.40 ERA in 19 innings in rookie ball, 20/7 K/BB; strong physical presence at 6-5, 225; fastball 91-95, hit higher in high school; good reviews on curveball and slider,
change-up needs some refinement but coming along, in general showed more polish than expected to go with plus stuff; next step is building up to a pro workload; ETA 2022? Might be sooner.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:33 PM
5) Keegan Akin, LHP, Grade B: Age 23, second round pick in 2016 from Western Michigan; 3.27 ERA in 138 innings in Double-A, 142/58 K/BB, 114 hits; one concern is strong fly ball/homer tendency but it hasn’t hurt him yet; good K-rate with 90-95 MPH fastball that moves well,
along with solid slider and change-up; mechanics more consistent in ’18 but maintained deceptive stuff, very solid pitching prospect who needs more attention; ETA late 2019.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:33 PM
6) Austin Hays, OF, Grade B: Age 23, third round pick in 2016 from Jacksonville; excellent 2017 season got him to the majors briefly but fell back in 2018, hampered by shoulder and ankle injuries along with strike zone control issues
, hitting .242/.271/.432 in 273 at-bats in Double-A; best tools are power and throwing arm, but I have some concerns about OBP; good makeup rep; ETA late 2019.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:33 PM
7) Dean Kremer, RHP, Grade B: Age 23, drafted in 14th round out of UNLV in 2016 by Dodgers, came over to Baltimore in Machado trade; 2.88 ERA in 131 innings between High-A and Double-A, 178/46 K/BB, 108 hits; led minor leagues in strikeouts; racks up Ks with plus curveball
but heater is respectable in 92-95 range and plays up due to contrast with curve; change-up is a third pitch but can still improve; usually throws strikes; I think he’s under-rated in general and could end up being a number three starter; ETA late 2019.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:34 PM
8) Richie Martin, SS, Grade B-: Age 24, first round pick in 2015 by Oakland Athletics from University of Florida, over to Orioles in 2018 Rule 5 draft; I’ll be very surprised if he doesn’t stick; hit .300/.368/.439 with 25 steals, 44 walks, 86 strikeouts in 453 at-bats in AA
reliable defender at both second base and shortstop; hitting disappointing until 2018, Texas League observers feel he made real progress although raw numbers overstate the case; if he can hit .250 with some BBs and steals glove enough to keep him employed; ETA 2019.
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