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[SportsGuy]

7 years / 45 million ?

Horrible idea

[Mackus]

7 years / 45 million ?

Seems like a risky guy to commit to long term. And without much benefit as I don't think his price would explode compared to right now if he has a very good 2020.

And even if you did want to, this feels like 33-50% too much money.

Next two years for league min, 3 arb years (maybe 1 and 4 years if super 2 which increases things a little but not a ton), and 2 FA years for Santander I would guess you can get for $30M right now if not less. And can probably make those FA years options for about $16-18M total. Guaranteeing $45M seems like way more to me than what you'd have to commit to if you did want him for that long.

[dude]

It's the service adjusted version of Eugenio Suarez.

 

That's the kind of guy you hope to find doing this.  (not necessary to do this to play Santander, but that's a different topic)

 

Santander is clearly the best of the guys who we've seen this side of Mancini, so just wondering if anyone thinks we've found a Suarez.

[NewMarketSean]

I thought the benefit of young cost controlled guys was that they were young and cost controlled. 7 years $45M seems like the total opposite of that. If he does this for an entire year next year then maybe lock him up. But I think the chance he is as good or DFA’ed next year are about equal with the more likely scenario of mediocrity.

[Mackus]

No chance he's DFA next year. Will still be dirt cheap and has options remaining.

I support the general idea of extending Santander if you think he's legit. Just don't need to spend that much to do it.

I think saying he's clearly the best guy since Mancini is way premature. Excellent performance in MLB this year. But he also only had a 725 OPS in AAA this year in an offensively inflated league. 350 MLB PA were great but 200 MiLB AAA were quite bad. I'm not committing anything near $45M to him yet. That seems wildly aggressive.

[SportsGuy]

I don't think he is DFA'ed next year but I think the chances are far more likely that he is a DFA type guy (IE, poor production and you don't care if you lose him) vs a guy you believe is worth extending.

 

If you do believe in his talent, I agree that dudes contract is too much.

[SportsGuy]

Seth just posted this on his FB page:

Since being recalled to the Majors for good on June 7, Orioles outfielder Anthony Santander has hit more home runs than Mookie Betts, Francisco Lindor, Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman.

He has more hits than Mike Trout, Michael Brantley and others.

#rebuild

[BobPhelan]

2019: .261/.297/.476 (.773), 20 doubles, 1 triple, 20 HR, 59 RBI, 1 SB, 380 AB

[BSLChrisStoner]

Balt Sun: Orioles’ Anthony Santander returns to workouts with challenging timeline to prepare for Opening Day

[Nigel Tufnel]

Dan Connolly@danconnolly2016·25m

 

Santander confirms he tested positive for Covid-19. Said he was lucky he had mild symptoms. Was quarantined for 14 days. Now ready to go.

[Mike B]

Dan Connolly@danconnolly2016·25m

 

Santander confirms he tested positive for Covid-19. Said he was lucky he had mild symptoms. Was quarantined for 14 days. Now ready to go.

Good to see him back.  I would not rush him for next week though

[BSLChrisStoner]

Was nice he was able to get back for the Opener. Couple doubles already. Double yesterday knocked in 2 after Boston scored their first 2 runs the inning prior.

[BSLChrisStoner]

Homer #1 today.

[BSLRoseKatz]

We'll have to see how the Machado prospects pan out but it'd be funny if getting him in the rule 5 draft wound up being the most important thing Duquette did for the future

[BSLSteveBirrer]

DD didn't do anything for the future of the club. Nothing.

[Mike B]

DD didn't do anything for the future of the club. Nothing.

The man phoned it in, from the time they did not let him go to the Blue jays.

[dude]

DD didn't do anything for the future of the club. Nothing.

 

Really?  Mancini, Hays, Mountcastle, Means, GRod, Hall, Baumman, Lowther, Akin, Harvey = Nothing?

 

I don't put much stock in the 2018 trades (I think they had the wrong focus, that is quantity over quality) but the jury is out on about half of those guys.  There's more guys in there to consider.

 

Personally, I think DD did a generally poor job and would suggest he was actually worse than just mailing it in after the Toronto debacle (Orioles fault btw...just let him go)...but nearly 100% of the ranking that Elias is taking credit for today is the actual prospects that an under performing FO left for him.

[Mackus]

Those guys listed aren't anything special, IMO. I like several of them, they just aren't unique talents as a group. I wouldn't call them nothing, but I do think it's fair to say Duquette did nothing novel to acquire them and that nearly every team has a similar crop of youngish talent.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

Those guys listed aren't anything special, IMO. I like several of them, they just aren't unique talents as a group. I wouldn't call them nothing, but I do think it's fair to say Duquette did nothing novel to acquire them and that nearly every team has a similar crop of youngish talent.

This and the scouts should get credit for whatever anybody wants to make of those guys. DD didn't do anything other than draft them based on recommendations from his staff.

I'll stick with my original opinion on him. Now I do agree with Dude on one thing. The O's should have not only let him go they should have kicked his butt out the door for even talking to the Blue Jays. Would have been good riddance.

And since I am on a rolll.....lol

Dear DD,

Cruz hit two more missles yesterday.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

DD was a poor GM who didn't work as a GM in MLB for years before he got the job and likely won't work as a GM again. That said, I dont have much faith in any GM doing a good job here since the ownership is a huge ball and chain.