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#61 Matt

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 01:26 AM

This whole suggestion that he can't pitch for a successful team is one of the laziest things I've read on this website.

He was the top setup man in baseball last year until late August when he started to struggle. It's funny how we forget how important he was in all of those 1 run games last year. Johnson gets all the praise because he pitched the 9th but what about the man who pitched the 8th? Suddenly, he can't handle any pressure even though he could handle all those 1 run leads in the 8th inning last year? He pitched 2 innings in a win or go home game 4 in the ALDS at Yankees Stadium and gave up 1 hit, did we forget about that?

If he pitches well for Chicago it's not because it's a less pressure situation it's because he regained control of his pitches. His last appearance in Baltimore was in a no pressure situation and he got hit. Pressure has nothing to do with it. I can't believe I actually read that on here.

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#62 You Play to Win the Game

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 08:15 AM

This whole suggestion that he can't pitch for a successful team is one of the laziest things I've read on this website.

He was the top setup man in baseball last year until late August when he started to struggle. It's funny how we forget how important he was in all of those 1 run games last year. Johnson gets all the praise because he pitched the 9th but what about the man who pitched the 8th? Suddenly, he can't handle any pressure even though he could handle all those 1 run leads in the 8th inning last year? He pitched 2 innings in a win or go home game 4 in the ALDS at Yankees Stadium and gave up 1 hit, did we forget about that?

If he pitches well for Chicago it's not because it's a less pressure situation it's because he regained control of his pitches. His last appearance in Baltimore was in a no pressure situation and he got hit. Pressure has nothing to do with it. I can't believe I actually read that on here.

No, it's just a differing opinion. No need to be obnoxious because someone has a different opinion than you, backed up equally with anecdotal evidence. Chill out brah.

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#63 Matt

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

No, it's just a differing opinion. No need to be obnoxious because someone has a different opinion than you, backed up equally with anecdotal evidence. Chill out brah.

You have no evidence at all to back it up.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

No, it's just a differing opinion. No need to be obnoxious because someone has a different opinion than you, backed up equally with anecdotal evidence. Chill out brah.

You have no evidence at all to back it up.

There's plenty, you just choose to ignore it. That's on you. Have fun in your silo.

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#65 Matt

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Posted 07 July 2013 - 12:58 AM

There's plenty, you just choose to ignore it. That's on you. Have fun in your silo.

What did I choose to ignore? All you have said is that there is less pressure pitching for a last place team than pitching for a contending team, which is obviously true. I pointed out that he has pitched well before in high pressure situations for a contending team and even pitched well in the playoffs. I don't see how that is ignoring anything you said.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:49 AM

This whole suggestion that he can't pitch for a successful team is one of the laziest things I've read on this website.

He was the top setup man in baseball last year until late August when he started to struggle. It's funny how we forget how important he was in all of those 1 run games last year. Johnson gets all the praise because he pitched the 9th but what about the man who pitched the 8th? Suddenly, he can't handle any pressure even though he could handle all those 1 run leads in the 8th inning last year? He pitched 2 innings in a win or go home game 4 in the ALDS at Yankees Stadium and gave up 1 hit, did we forget about that?

If he pitches well for Chicago it's not because it's a less pressure situation it's because he regained control of his pitches. His last appearance in Baltimore was in a no pressure situation and he got hit. Pressure has nothing to do with it. I can't believe I actually read that on here.

He deserves credit, I think he was given that, closers will always get more that's just how it is. I'm going to state the obvious but relievers are voltaile. No one would've thought Kevin Gregg could've had this kind of a year after seeing what he did for us. Would it surprise if Pedro figured it out in Chicago, no. I think he needed a change of scenery. He clearly has stuff, he just had little after August. Yes, great performance in Yankee Stadium, but that's one game. Adam Jones also doesn't take Rivera deep like he did yesterday if given another nine opportunties.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:46 AM

This whole suggestion that he can't pitch for a successful team is one of the laziest things I've read on this website.

He was the top setup man in baseball last year until late August when he started to struggle. It's funny how we forget how important he was in all of those 1 run games last year. Johnson gets all the praise because he pitched the 9th but what about the man who pitched the 8th? Suddenly, he can't handle any pressure even though he could handle all those 1 run leads in the 8th inning last year? He pitched 2 innings in a win or go home game 4 in the ALDS at Yankees Stadium and gave up 1 hit, did we forget about that?

If he pitches well for Chicago it's not because it's a less pressure situation it's because he regained control of his pitches. His last appearance in Baltimore was in a no pressure situation and he got hit. Pressure has nothing to do with it. I can't believe I actually read that on here.

Good Post. In addition he was a monster in the WBC which in our country is not a really big deal but in his, it was the World Series. With Pedro it is more about mechanics then pressure. It would not surprise me to see Pedro do well.

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#68 Matt

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

He deserves credit, I think he was given that, closers will always get more that's just how it is. I'm going to state the obvious but relievers are voltaile. No one would've thought Kevin Gregg could've had this kind of a year after seeing what he did for us. Would it surprise if Pedro figured it out in Chicago, no. I think he needed a change of scenery. He clearly has stuff, he just had little after August. Yes, great performance in Yankee Stadium, but that's one game. Adam Jones also doesn't take Rivera deep like he did yesterday if given another nine opportunties.

I fully expect him to eventually turn it around. Maybe it will be because of the change of scenery, maybe it will be because they tweak some mechanics, maybe it will be because of baseball. One thing I am very confident in is that pressure had nothing to do with his recent performances.

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#69 Matt

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

Good Post. In addition he was a monster in the WBC which in our country is not a really big deal but in his, it was the World Series. With Pedro it is more about mechanics then pressure. It would not surprise me to see Pedro do well.

Great point, I forgot about the WBC.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:49 AM

Sports on Earth: Looking to Deal
http://www.sportsone...ticle/53389426/

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:55 AM

http://espn.go.com/c...igley-jumbotron

One step closer...

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#72 Oriole85

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 12:03 AM

http://www.cbssports...nt-to-deal-soon

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 10:14 PM

http://hardballtalk....pleted-tonight/

Garza for Olt-plus deal imminent, but not before tomorrow.

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#74 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 07:42 AM

As Ricker just said in the Yankees thread (NY trying obtain Soriano), the Cubs are beginning to set themselves up.

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 03:12 PM

http://hardballtalk....eld-renovation/

It's on: $500 million, privately-funded, combination ballpark-renovation and mixed-use development.

Lawsuits to be filed in 3...2...

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:16 PM

Strop=Monster.

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#77 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 08:33 AM

Arrieta: 6 ip, 2 hits, 1 er, 1 hr, 3 bb's, 2 k's last night for the Cubs...

Strop... first 10.2 ip with the Cubs, 0 er. On Monday, 5 er in 0.1 ip.

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#78 Oriole85

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 09:39 AM

Arrieta: 6 ip, 2 hits, 1 er, 1 hr, 3 bb's, 2 k's last night for the Cubs...

Strop... first 10.2 ip with the Cubs, 0 er. On Monday, 5 er in 0.1 ip.

Looks like a good first outing for him, hope he makes it. I'm not taking away too much though from it. He's in a new league in an emergency start situation. We saw that kind of thing with Ross Wolf against us. Once the book is more out on Jake in the NL, I expect the league to catch up on him. do think he can be an effective relief ace, going in 2-3 inning spurts, maybe as a closer though.

In terms of Strop, he also needed the change of scenery. Aside from Monday, I'm that surprised with his success so far. I think he's the kind of guy who is going to move around from team to team and can get hot at any point.

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