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[BaltBird 24]

Torn UCL for Ohtani? Another TJS? Brutal right before he's set to become a free agent.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

You could see something brewing on the pitching side wirh Ohtani

[BobPhelan]

The Angels just put Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez, Matt Moore, Hunter Renfroe, and Randal Grichuk on waivers lol.

Good use of resources.

[Mackus]

Doubt it gets to us, but we should have a claim in on Lopez and Moore.  Giolito as well, even though he's been brutal since the trade.

 

Are these outright waivers?  I thought that they got rid of revocable.  Will they clear in time for a Aug 31 roster addition, which means postseason eligibility?

[BobPhelan]

Doubt it gets to us, but we should have a claim in on Lopez and Moore. Giolito as well, even though he's been brutal since the trade.

Are these outright waivers? I thought that they got rid of revocable. Will they clear in time for a Aug 31 roster addition, which means postseason eligibility?

Outright waivers, all will be postseason eligible. None of them will get to us.

[CantonJester]

The Angels just put Lucas Giolito, Reynaldo Lopez, Matt Moore, Hunter Renfroe, and Randal Grichuk on waivers lol.

Good use of resources.

 

The Angels likely took a look at what they want their roster to look like in five years, and realized these mid-career guys aren't a part of getting them to that goal. It's actually viewed as a 'solid' among players for teams to release guys like this: to give them a chance to get picked up by a team looking to make the postseason. 

[BobPhelan]

The Angels likely took a look at what they want their roster to look like in five years, and realized these mid-career guys aren't a part of getting them to that goal. It's actually viewed as a 'solid' among players for teams to release guys like this: to give them a chance to get picked up by a team looking to make the postseason.

They’re all free agents at the end of the year and they just traded some good prospects for these guys. Shitshow.

[CantonJester]

They’re all free agents at the end of the year and they just traded some good prospects for these guys. Shitshow.

 

I'm not arguing the effectiveness of the Angels' franchise. I'm simply saying that when a team pulls up like this, it's not that uncommon to unload guys to catch on elsewhere. 

[BobPhelan]

I'm not arguing the effectiveness of the Angels' franchise. I'm simply saying that when a team pulls up like this, it's not that uncommon to unload guys to catch on elsewhere.

Oh that I understand but they should’ve seen this coming.

[makoman]

I'm not arguing the effectiveness of the Angels' franchise. I'm simply saying that when a team pulls up like this, it's not that uncommon to unload guys to catch on elsewhere.

I admit I pay way more attention to the Os than the league as a whole but I don’t feel like this is common at all. Maybe it just seems awful due to the sheer number, 20% of the roster waived seems nuts.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

This is BS. Gonna allow team right behind us to pick up quality players and there is nothing we can do about it.

[mdrunning]

This is BS. Gonna allow team right behind us to pick up quality players and there is nothing we can do about it.

This is one of the downsides of having the second-best record in the majors. And I can live with that.

 

The Angels are also some $5 million over the luxury tax threshold as of right now. If that number is accurate, then they can slip back under if several of these players are claimed. Teams over the luxury tax are, among other things, penalized when it comes to compensatory draft picks, which could be important should they lose Ohtani to free agency.

[You Play to Win the Game]

This is BS. Gonna allow team right behind us to pick up quality players and there is nothing we can do about it.

Very true. Unfortunate.

Angels really are a total disaster.

[Mackus]

Think they'll come up with a fix to this in the off-season. Maybe players claimed on irrevocable or release waivers with a certain amount of service time just become free agents? Or aren't postseason eligible after the trade deadline? Or both?

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Think they'll come up with a fix to this in the off-season. Maybe players claimed on irrevocable or release waivers with a certain amount of service time just become free agents? Or aren't postseason eligible after the trade deadline? Or both?

Something has to be done. Obviously LA does this because they know someone will pick them up and eat the remaing salaries. I mean freaking Giolto is not even gonna cost one of these contenders a prospect. Just remaining salary. The old Aug waiver trades was better than this. It at least cost the team acquiring something more than just salary. Even if it was a scratch off lottery ticket.

[mdrunning]

Something has to be done. Obviously LA does this because they know someone will pick them up and eat the remaing salaries. I mean freaking Giolto is not even gonna cost one of these contenders a prospect. Just remaining salary. The old Aug waiver trades was better than this. It at least cost the team acquiring something more than just salary. Even if it was a scratch off lottery ticket.

Before the old deadline was eliminated, you'd see much bigger names than this hit the waiver wire. They were never going to be outright waived, but teams did it to try and gauge interest should someone claim them. 

 

Can a team still pull a guy off the waiver wire if he's claimed? Not that the Angels have any incentive to do so.

[Mackus]

Something has to be done. Obviously LA does this because they know someone will pick them up and eat the remaing salaries. I mean freaking Giolto is not even gonna cost one of these contenders a prospect. Just remaining salary. The old Aug waiver trades was better than this. It at least cost the team acquiring something more than just salary. Even if it was a scratch off lottery ticket.

Sometimes guys still moved just on waivers without a prospect. I recall the Yankees trying to block a move, probably for Boston, and ending up with Jose Canseco who they didn't want.

[Mackus]

Can a team still pull a guy off the waiver wire if he's claimed? Not that the Angels have any incentive to do so.

No

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Sometimes guys still moved just on waivers without a prospect. I recall the Yankees trying to block a move, probably for Boston, and ending up with Jose Canseco who they didn't want.

True. Reynaldo Lopez has been really good for LAA too. Tor gonna pick both these guys up?? Im assuming as well that the lowest team gets first priorty on both or does it work like fantasy where if you claim a guy and win you get sent ti the back of the line. Prob not right. So Tor can just add two nice arms to their staff. Ridiculous.

[mdrunning]

No

Actually, I believe a team can use a rescission option once on a player. Any subsequent waiver would irrevocable.