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[BSLChrisStoner]

@MikeTanier

The Julian Edelman Hall of Fame argument is generally only advanced by 2 sorts of people: 1) #Patriots homers and 2) Folks who mix Edelman, Wes Welker and Danny Amendola into one Gundam slot white guy.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Totally agree, but you didn't see all the talk about Edelman being a HOF'er when he retired the other day? Crazy.

Almost daily something will pop up on BSL that confirms to me that my decision to avoid social media and most media in general is a wise one. Thank you BSL.

[Old Man]

Almost daily something will pop up on BSL that confirms to me that my decision to avoid social media and most media in general is a wise one. Thank you BSL.

There is one good thing about social media. I can converse and see whats going on with my kids, grandkids and great grandchild and extended family members.

 

We also have a private family page, and we can discuss and show things, that we dont want the full blown public involved with.

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: NFL's all-time non-Hall of Fame 53-man roster: Michael Vick, Bo Jackson headline all-star squad

https://www.cbssport...all-star-squad/

[BSLChrisStoner]

• Centennial, 2020 class enshrined in football HOF

[JimJohnson]

Interesting piece from former Colt Bruce Laird in yesterdays Sun, passionately advocating for several of his former Baltimore Colt teammates to be inducted in the Hall of Fame. He also criticizes what he believes is an overly political process. 

 

I think Laird made a good case for those he cited for consideration under what seems to be the current standards for induction. 

 

Personally, though, I'm a "small hall" guy, believing that admission to a Hall of Fame should be a measure of greatness, not being very good for a long time. Sure, that's subjective, especially in football where statistics give a very limited picture of how players at most positions are, but it's pretty subjective.

 

What say you, BSL/Raven Nation? 

 

Laird: Pro Football Hall of Fame Rules Cheat Deserving Players Out of Induction

 

[Mike B]

Interesting piece from former Colt Bruce Laird in yesterdays Sun, passionately advocating for several of his former Baltimore Colt teammates to be inducted in the Hall of Fame. He also criticizes what he believes is an overly political process. 

 

I think Laird made a good case for those he cited for consideration under what seems to be the current standards for induction. 

 

Personally, though, I'm a "small hall" guy, believing that admission to a Hall of Fame should be a measure of greatness, not being very good for a long time. Sure, that's subjective, especially in football where statistics give a very limited picture of how players at most positions are, but it's pretty subjective.

 

What say you, BSL/Raven Nation? 

 

Laird: Pro Football Hall of Fame Rules Cheat Deserving Players Out of Induction

 

The one IMO, that is a real oversight, IMO, was #32 Mike Curtis..  The Mad Stork, Ted Hendricks is in, and rightfully so, and, I always think Mike had the bigger impact and was the better player.

[Mike B]

Interesting piece from former Colt Bruce Laird in yesterdays Sun, passionately advocating for several of his former Baltimore Colt teammates to be inducted in the Hall of Fame. He also criticizes what he believes is an overly political process. 

 

I think Laird made a good case for those he cited for consideration under what seems to be the current standards for induction. 

 

Personally, though, I'm a "small hall" guy, believing that admission to a Hall of Fame should be a measure of greatness, not being very good for a long time. Sure, that's subjective, especially in football where statistics give a very limited picture of how players at most positions are, but it's pretty subjective.

 

What say you, BSL/Raven Nation? 

 

Laird: Pro Football Hall of Fame Rules Cheat Deserving Players Out of Induction

 

Bobby Boyd, is another interesting one.  I think he finished his Colt Career with 57 interceptions and if memory serves, he played less than 10 years.  He was the captain of the Colts defensive backfield.

I am not sure he is a HOF guy, but he was a damn good football player and a ball hawk.

 

Bobby was part owner with Unitas in the Golden Arm Restaurant that was on York Road.  He and John would sit and tell stories, with the diners.  My Dad and I were regulars on Friday night.

 

Bobby was a QB at Oklahoma but he said, he had no thoughts that he could be a QB in the NFL, especially after watching Unitas.  He became a damn good corner.

 

Bobby told us a story, about how he was the alternate plan, to Tom Matte, when Tom played QB against the Packers in 1965.  His advice to Tom, "Please do not get hurt".

[JimJohnson]

Even from a "small hall" perspective, IMHO Mike Curtis belongs in the Hall. As I recall, Hendricks was more about making the spectacular plays, where Curtis was the grinder who kept stuffing runners and knocking people down, which could explain why the Mad Stork is in and Curtis is not. I hope that omission is soon rectified. 

[Mike B]

Even from a "small hall" perspective, IMHO Mike Curtis belongs in the Hall. As I recall, Hendricks was more about making the spectacular plays, where Curtis was the grinder who kept stuffing runners and knocking people down, which could explain why the Mad Stork is in and Curtis is not. I hope that omission is soon rectified. 

Mad Dog was definitely a grinder, but he did make his share of big plays too.  None bigger than the pick with about a minute to go in Super Bowl 5, against the Cowboys..   The pick led to Jim O'Brien's field goal and the Colts were Super Bowl champs

[bmore_ken]

Slightly off topic since I'm not talking about specific players. But I just got back from a weekend trip in Cleveland and visiting the HOF in Canton over the weekend.  I just want to say if you haven't been, make plans to do it. 

[BSLChrisStoner]

• Vermeil, Boselli, Seymour headline '22 HOF class

[BSLMikeFast]

I think it was a decent class. I think Wayne will get in eventually, as will Ware. Overall, Zach Thomas not getting in was the biggest snub IMO. If he's continually a finalist, why hasn't he gotten in? If he's not HOF worth, why does he keep getting nominated?

[Mackus]

Overall, Zach Thomas not getting in was the biggest snub IMO. If he's continually a finalist, why hasn't he gotten in? If he's not HOF worth, why does he keep getting nominated?

 

Seems pretty reasonable to me that he's one of the 15 best candidates each year but not one of the 5 best.  That's still how they do it, right?  Narrow to 15 finalists to be presented and then vote for 5 to enshrine?

[makoman]

Seems pretty reasonable to me that he's one of the 15 best candidates each year but not one of the 5 best.  That's still how they do it, right?  Narrow to 15 finalists to be presented and then vote for 5 to enshrine?

True, if you were for example the best player not in the HOF then you should make the final 15 every single year.

 

I won't pretend that I watched enough of either of them, but Thomas seems to have a better resume than Sam Mills at a similar position, no? I admit I don't know how to weight Mills' several early years in the USFL either.

[BSLChrisStoner]

ESPN: 2022 Pro Football Hall of Fame: How each inductee forged a path to Canton

https://www.espn.com...ged-path-canton

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: NFL's all-time non-Hall of Fame 53-man roster: Bo Jackson, Torry Holt, Darren Woodson headline all-star squad

https://www.cbssport...all-star-squad/

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: 2022 Pro Football Hall of Fame induction takeaways: Tony Boselli first Jag enshrined, Dick Vermeil thankful

https://www.cbssport...-thankful/live/

[BSLChrisStoner]

CBS Sports: 2023 Pro Football Hall of Fame finalists announced: Torry Holt, Darrelle Revis highlight modern-era list

https://www.cbssport...odern-era-list/

[BSLMikeLowe]

Pro Football Hall of Fame, Class of 2024: 

 

Julius Peppers 

Devin Hester 

Dwight Freeney 

Andre Johnson 

Patrick Willis 

Steve McMichael 

Randy Gradishar

 

 

Fingers crossed McMichael lives long enough to see his induction ceremony.