Haven't read the whole thread, but here's why people like Turge way more than Edsall.
1) He didn't put his big fat foot in his mouth every time he opened his mouth, compared to Edsall who most certainly did.
2) KA talked about good to great in football and they were coming off a 9-4 season. Yes, I agree with Ralph being fired but bottom line is Esdall shit all over a 9-4 team and coach and then has proceeded to go 2-10, 4-8, and we have another free fall coming.
3) Turge can recruit AND coach. He has a staff that can coach. Edsall can recruit but can't coach a lick and hasn't hired any coordinators who can coach a lick...and if he hired some coordinators who could coach, we'd get a drop off recruiting (aka Locksley).
4) It's much harder to make the NCAA Tournament than it is to win 6 football games IMO. You can win 6 games against bad/very mediocre teams. You can't only beat bad/mediocre teams and make the tournament.
That said, I'm certainly not enamored with Turgeon. I think he's a decent coach but I'm not a huge fan and I'm not convinced he's the answer, and if he becomes the answer I'm not convinced he'll be at MD for life. But we are in way better hands than him than Edsall. Turgeon has made every program he's been at better. Edsall has been at 1 other program and got them from awful to good and took advantage of a flawed BCS system.
Here's the bottom line that's a legitimate fact. If Edsall goes 7-5 his last season at UCONN and plays in the Holiday Bowl, he is not hired to coach MD. But because he made a BCS bowl in a shit conference and got trounced by a better team (which he ALWAYS DOES when he plays a better team), he parlayed that into a very, very good job. Especially for him.
The guy loses to every single team he plays that's better than his team and loses half the times to worse teams, and in half the games they win against worse teams they play like garbage and barley scrape by.
1)Edsall has done better lately, they did hire a PR firm I believe, but let's give credit where it's due.
2)That's more on KA, but for Edsall it comes with the territory. Bottomline, you fire the ACC COY, who goes 9-4, you expect improvement
3)Turge might be able to recruit, but he hasn't exactly done anything here yet. You're the one yourself who was outraged that he got a bonus for winning NIT games.
4)Turge still hasn't made the NCAA Tourney, I liked the NIT to going to a lower-tiered bowl. Maryland only made the NCAA Tourney every year for a decade-and-a-half. Also they haven't gotten out of the first weekend in nearly a decade now. Just making it didn't used to be good enough.
I like Turgeon as well, I'm not as high on him as most people are. He did a good job maintaining the program Billy Gillespie built, didn't get it over-the-hump. Like Edsall, he did a good job of building programs before that.
You could also say if Ralph goes 9-3 during the regular season game and it elevates to a better bowl, he is retained. That "if game" goes both ways. And in college football, one game matters more than any other major sport. The difference between 5-7/6-6 or 10-2/9-3. If you go 83-79 in baseball versus 82-80, there's not likely a ton of difference, you likely miss the playoffs either way, you had a good but not great season. Edsall is head coach because no one who KA wanted with NFL ties wanted to do it and the administration got cold feet with Leach. While I think Maryland is an upgrade over UConn football-wise at the time, it wasn't as much as it is now since they were still in a BCS conference and Maryland football at best was mid-level ACC job.
Saying he loses to half the worst opponents is likely inaccurate. You're a odds person, are you basing this on games he's been favored in and loses?
