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#141 Oriole85

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 04:14 PM

@SportsCenter Yankees select Mariano Rivera with 872nd pick of MLB Draft.
Not a typo... it's the legendary closer's son.


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 04:15 PM

Draft saved. There's another Palmer in the system.

In the 31st rd the O's select, Riley Palmer 3B out of SNHU. 



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 05:08 PM

So the Padres drafted Manziel.

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:22 PM

And the 2014 Draft comes to an end.

40 rounds, 38 picks for the O's. 27 pitchers, 11 hitters. 8 HS players chosen. 

 



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:25 PM

And the 2014 Draft comes to an end.

40 rounds, 38 picks for the O's. 27 pitchers, 11 hitters. 8 HS players chosen. 

 

 

 

So how do we make sense of this?  Kind of hard without a 1st and 2nd, but is there anyone here worth getting excited about?



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:27 PM

Baltimore Orioles Draft Tracker 2014 (From Orioles Nation)

   
Rd. Pos. Name DOB Ht. Wt. School Signed Bonus
1  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
2  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
3 (90) LHP Brian Gonzalez 10/25/1995 6’1″ 230 Archbishop McCarthy HS (FL) 
4 (121) RHP Pat Connaughton 1/6/1993 6’5″ 210 Notre Dame 
5 (151) RHP David Hess 7/10/1993 6’2″ 210 Tennessee Tech 
6 (181) LHP Tanner Scott 7/22/1994 6’2″ 220 Howard College 
7 (211) LHP Max Schuh 3/3/1992 6’4″ 210 UCLA 
8 (241) 2B Steve Wilkerson  1/11/1992 6’1″ 185  Clemson 
9 (271) 3B Austen Anderson  6/18/1992 5’11″ 190 Ole Miss 
10 (301) CF  Jay Gonzalez 12/11/1991  5’11″ 185 Mount Olive University 
11 (331) LHP John Means 4/24/1993 6’3″ 225 West Virginia University 
12 (361) RHP Nigel Nootbaar 3/24/1993 6’0″ 180 University of Southern California 
13 (391) LHP Matthew Trowbridge 3/24/1993  5’10″ 175 Central Michigan University 
14 (421) RF Gerrion Grim 9/17/1993 6’2″ 190 Jefferson College 
15 (451) 2B Alejandro Juvier 1/20/1996 6’1″ 180 Doral Academy (FL) 
16 (481) RHP Tanner Chleborad 11/4/1992 6’5″ 190 Washington State 
17 (511) RHP Jean Cosme 5/24/1996 6’2″ 155 Colegio Sagrada Familia, Puerto Rico 
18 (541) RHP Matthew Grimes 9/4/1991 6’6″ 210 Georgia Tech 
19 (571) RHP Connor Seabold 1/24/1996 6’2″ 175 Newport Harbor HS (CA) 
20 (601) RHP  Zach Albin 6/14/1993 6’2″ 195 University of Connecticut - Avery Point 
21 (631) LHP John McLeod 6/3/1992 6’4″ 220 Wake Forest 
22 (661) RHP Josh Walker 12/18/1991 6’2″ 175 University of New Mexico 
23 (691) RHP Zeke McGranahan 1/3/1991 6’4″ 215 Georgia Gwinnett College 
24 (721) RHP Lucas Long 10/7/1992 6’0″ 195 University of San Diego 
25 (751) LHP Brandon Bonilla 10/21/1993 6’4″ 215 Grand Canyon University 
26 (781) RHP Gage Burland 6/27/1995 6’2″ 195 East Valley HS (WA) 
27 (811) SS Austin Pfeiffer 5/25/1991 6’4″ 225 University of Arkansas – Little Rock 
28 (841) RHP James Carter 3/10/1994 6’3″ 185  Chabot College, CA 
29 (871) RHP Patrick Baker 8/15/1993 6’3″ 215  Anne Arundel CC (MD) 
30 (901) RHP Michael Burke 8/27/1992 6’2″ 200 University of Buffalo 
31 (931) 3B Riley Palmer 11/15/1991 6’4″ 215 Southern New Hampshire University 
32 (961) RF Jamill Moquete 2/13/1992 6’3″ 215 UMASS 
33 (991) RHP  Brandon Koch 12/7/1995 6’4″ 210 Temecula Valley HS (CA) 
34 (1021) RHP  Garrett Pearson 3/21/1996 6’6″ 220 St. Johns HS (DC) 
35 (1051) CF Tad Gold 3/1/1991 6’1″ 195 Endicott Col (MA) 
36 (1081) 1B Alexander Lee 1/14/1991 6’3″ 205 Radford 
37 (1111) RHP Hunter Hart 9/3/1995 6’3″ 180 St. Joseph Ogden HS (IL) 
38 (1141) RHP Keegan Ghidotti 4/4/1992 6’2″ 210 Ouachita Baptist U (AR) 
39 (1171) RHP Tucker Simpson 5/12/1993 6’5″ 229 Chipola College (FL) 
40 (1201) CF T.J. Olesczuk 2/5/1992 6’0″ 195 Winthrop University


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:31 PM

Certainly doesn't look like much to get excited about if you believe anyone elses reports on this group.

 

Maybe a #3 they took a kid they know they won't sign.....save the money this year for a bigger international allocation (as if the money was actually an issue).....and take another pick next year.

 

I mean....maybe they love these guys and there's a couple Josh Haders in there.....but it looks like they went after lightning strikes.



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:32 PM

And the 2014 Draft comes to an end.

40 rounds, 38 picks for the O's. 27 pitchers, 11 hitters. 8 HS players chosen. 

 

 

I know nothing about who was drafted... paid zero attention to the draft this year with the O's not picking until 90. I think the O's strategy in this draft is.... interesting. I'd like to hear more. Why so much pitching? Just how the draft broke, or did they decide all things being equal to give the benefit to pitchers? Why only 8 HS players?

 

Beyond this... I come back to what we've discussed before... I'd like to see the O's overspend their International cap (as 3 of their divisional foes plan to do) to help make up for not having the high end draft picks.



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 06:57 PM

I think the O's strategy in this draft is.... interesting. I'd like to hear more. Why so much pitching? Just how the draft broke, or did they decide all things being equal to give the benefit to pitchers? Why only 8 HS players?

 

Beyond this... I come back to what we've discussed before... I'd like to see the O's overspend their International cap (as 3 of their divisional foes plan to do) to help make up for not having the high end draft picks.

 

Does taking a lot of pitching in the hopes you get lucky really count as a 'strategy'?

 

If I had to guess....I'd say that pitching is frequently harder to project and easier to get lucky on a kid that may only be 88-90 with fringy stuff.....but once he gets into a pro system he's got a chance to blow up and become something nobody understood.  Hitting being easier (but by no means a guarantee) to project.

 

they took 6 position players in the first 30 rounds, none of them were guys that fell, and 3 of them (8,9,10) appear to be college seniors and underslot signs.

 

Looks like they're saving money in the draft with no-one to spend it on.

 

On the International side.....I think everyone agrees....but I haven't seen anything that suggests that's the plan.  Places like BA usually have a pretty good handle on who's at least talking to who and it doesn't appear the Orioles are in on any of the widely projected talent.

 

All 4 of our Division rivals were tied to guys with (projected) top10 signing bonuses.



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:03 PM

Grading the baseball draft this early is as silly and possibly more silly than doing it with football considering the players all have to develop in the minors and are years away from playing at the highest level.

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:35 PM

Grading the baseball draft this early is as silly and possibly more silly than doing it with football considering the players all have to develop in the minors and are years away from playing at the highest level.

You're absolutely right. However, the scouting reports on a lot of the players we've drafted aren't too glowing. There hasn't been any (to my knowledge) mlb draft pundits/scouts come out and applaud us on any particular selection. In recent years, there have been some draft picks with pretty good scouting reports - at least reports that emphasized upside. That really didn't seem to be the case this year, at least from what I've seen and what I've read. 

Obviously, we'll come back to this convo in 3-5 years and either laugh or cry. But it's an easy initial reaction to be worried about this draft based off of the scouting reports, or lack thereof. We'll see what happens. I'll say, I'm hoping some BSL-contributors get some interviews with some writers for BA, BP and MLBPipeline. 

Edit: I will say that I like the pick of Matthew Grimes, RHP from GT in the 18th round. He missed all of the 2013 season after re-injuring his elbow and getting TJ surgery. He was originally drafted in the 4th rd back in 2010 out of HS but turned down the White Sox offer to go to GT. 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 07:56 PM

Did this draft end up being as deep and talented as expected?

@masnsteve O's scouting dir. Gary Rajsich: "We did want to target the strength of the draft which was pitching."

 
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So...maybe? Interested to hear all his thoughts on the draft. 



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:12 PM

I'll just say this. I trust the scouting and drafting under DD more than any GM in a long while.

We are quietly building up some decent organizational depth. Something we really haven't had in forever.

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Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:17 PM

.....so there are certainly reasons not to take those guys in the top 5 rounds......but we are talking about the 15+th pick......

 

.....out of curiosity.....why isn't Bukaukas a good ft for Baltimore?  Maybe he's not a good fit anywhere because of the NC commit.....but with guys like him and Marshall.....I'd still play a little defense and not let him be woo'd by a team like the Dodgers, Yankees or RedSox.

 

with Gilliam....isn't uncertain upside better than no upside?.....it is the 15th round.  How many guys with any upside are left?

 

btw....absolutely no commitment to these comments.....literally perusing the list of still available guys and thinking about higher ranked talent that is still on the Day3 board.....and could be some fit for the Orioles.  I have no idea how much this does or doesn't play into things....but you have a guy like Hart that played with Marshall and Gilliam.....where you may get a voice inside the circle that other teams don't have.

 

Teams were not staying away solely because of the UNC commitment.

 

Marshall is a fine target, but I think he fancies himself a future first rounder and it prob takes close to 2 mill to get him to forgo.

 

Good point with the Parkview connection (though was Gilliam there last year? I don't remember). Gilliam just isn't very refined right now, and I am not sure he is ready for pro ball. Might be a two year complex guy, which isn't bad, but it's like a $200 K guy to me. Just my opinion, of course. I think Carson Sands was the guy for Baltimore based on who was available. Exactly the kind of development you like to see in the senior year. Good feel for secondaries and a lefty. He'll be overslot, but considering the number of SR college guys Baltimore signed it shouldn't be hard to save an extra 700K or so..


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:22 PM

So how do we make sense of this?  Kind of hard without a 1st and 2nd, but is there anyone here worth getting excited about?

My understanding is FL scouts like Gonzalez but most didn't think the bat was quite ready for pro ball and the projection on the mound was more backend guy. With the depth in HS pitching I don't think many teams were looking at him that early.

 

Connaughton has a big arm but will need a good amount of development. Most Midwest scouts felt he was committed to going back to ND to play basketball one more year, so he wouldn't get started on the baseball side in earnest until 2015.


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:37 PM

Sports on Earth: 1st round Thoughts

http://www.sportsone...os-rodon#!V41tp



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:47 PM

Sports on Earth: 1st round Thoughts

http://www.sportsone...os-rodon#!V41tp

 

.....that's not great information.


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 10:01 PM

.....that's not great information.

 

So, you are saying there's a reason he's no longer with BP? lol...

 

Seems to be a cursory overview for the masses such as myself, who have never seen any of these guys play. I can imagine such reviews must be frustratingly mind-numbing for someone like yourself who has done the work... been out seeing these guys (and numerous others) and writing about it...



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Posted 07 June 2014 - 10:11 PM

Baltimore Orioles Draft Tracker 2014 (From Orioles Nation)

   
Rd. Pos. Name DOB Ht. Wt. School Signed Bonus
1  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
2  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -
3 (90) LHP Brian Gonzalez 10/25/1995 6’1″ 230 Archbishop McCarthy HS (FL) 
4 (121) RHP Pat Connaughton 1/6/1993 6’5″ 210 Notre Dame 
5 (151) RHP David Hess 7/10/1993 6’2″ 210 Tennessee Tech 
6 (181) LHP Tanner Scott 7/22/1994 6’2″ 220 Howard College 
7 (211) LHP Max Schuh 3/3/1992 6’4″ 210 UCLA 
8 (241) 2B Steve Wilkerson  1/11/1992 6’1″ 185  Clemson 
9 (271) 3B Austen Anderson  6/18/1992 5’11″ 190 Ole Miss 
10 (301) CF  Jay Gonzalez 12/11/1991  5’11″ 185 Mount Olive University 
11 (331) LHP John Means 4/24/1993 6’3″ 225 West Virginia University 
12 (361) RHP Nigel Nootbaar 3/24/1993 6’0″ 180 University of Southern California 
13 (391) LHP Matthew Trowbridge 3/24/1993  5’10″ 175 Central Michigan University 
14 (421) RF Gerrion Grim 9/17/1993 6’2″ 190 Jefferson College 
15 (451) 2B Alejandro Juvier 1/20/1996 6’1″ 180 Doral Academy (FL) 
16 (481) RHP Tanner Chleborad 11/4/1992 6’5″ 190 Washington State 
17 (511) RHP Jean Cosme 5/24/1996 6’2″ 155 Colegio Sagrada Familia, Puerto Rico 
18 (541) RHP Matthew Grimes 9/4/1991 6’6″ 210 Georgia Tech 
19 (571) RHP Connor Seabold 1/24/1996 6’2″ 175 Newport Harbor HS (CA) 
20 (601) RHP  Zach Albin 6/14/1993 6’2″ 195 University of Connecticut - Avery Point 
21 (631) LHP John McLeod 6/3/1992 6’4″ 220 Wake Forest 
22 (661) RHP Josh Walker 12/18/1991 6’2″ 175 University of New Mexico 
23 (691) RHP Zeke McGranahan 1/3/1991 6’4″ 215 Georgia Gwinnett College 
24 (721) RHP Lucas Long 10/7/1992 6’0″ 195 University of San Diego 
25 (751) LHP Brandon Bonilla 10/21/1993 6’4″ 215 Grand Canyon University 
26 (781) RHP Gage Burland 6/27/1995 6’2″ 195 East Valley HS (WA) 
27 (811) SS Austin Pfeiffer 5/25/1991 6’4″ 225 University of Arkansas – Little Rock 
28 (841) RHP James Carter 3/10/1994 6’3″ 185  Chabot College, CA 
29 (871) RHP Patrick Baker 8/15/1993 6’3″ 215  Anne Arundel CC (MD) 
30 (901) RHP Michael Burke 8/27/1992 6’2″ 200 University of Buffalo 
31 (931) 3B Riley Palmer 11/15/1991 6’4″ 215 Southern New Hampshire University 
32 (961) RF Jamill Moquete 2/13/1992 6’3″ 215 UMASS 
33 (991) RHP  Brandon Koch 12/7/1995 6’4″ 210 Temecula Valley HS (CA) 
34 (1021) RHP  Garrett Pearson 3/21/1996 6’6″ 220 St. Johns HS (DC) 
35 (1051) CF Tad Gold 3/1/1991 6’1″ 195 Endicott Col (MA) 
36 (1081) 1B Alexander Lee 1/14/1991 6’3″ 205 Radford 
37 (1111) RHP Hunter Hart 9/3/1995 6’3″ 180 St. Joseph Ogden HS (IL) 
38 (1141) RHP Keegan Ghidotti 4/4/1992 6’2″ 210 Ouachita Baptist U (AR) 
39 (1171) RHP Tucker Simpson 5/12/1993 6’5″ 229 Chipola College (FL) 
40 (1201) CF T.J. Olesczuk 2/5/1992 6’0″ 195 Winthrop University

Turns out his sister was in my high school class. 


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Posted 07 June 2014 - 10:20 PM

So, you are saying there's a reason he's no longer with BP? lol...

 

Seems to be a cursory overview for the masses such as myself, who have never seen any of these guys play. I can imagine such reviews must be frustratingly mind-numbing for someone like yourself who has done the work... been out seeing these guys (and numerous others) and writing about it...

 

No, sorry, I didn't mean it like that. Just some of the filler is off (e.g. Finnegan's stock rising when it was slipping b/c of shoulder and down stuff; Freeland shooting up boards late when he actually fell off boards late b/c of injury and a bad final start). Sorry, that was stupid of me to bring up.


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