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[weird-O]

What a Fantastic day this is. 

[BSLMikeLowe]

David M. Rubenstein

@DM_Rubenstein

 

Some people call Wednesdays hump day...but I'm thinking for this Wednesday "The Next Chapter" sounds better. Thoughts? Go @Orioles

[BaltBird 24]

Best day in Orioles baseball in the past 40 years.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Best day in Orioles baseball in the past 40 years.

 

2,131 was OK.

[Mackus]

2,131 was OK.

Delmon Young Double, too. Can't argue against the overall importance of today though. Hard to believe we got here.

[BaltBird 24]

2,131 was OK.

Was never a huge Cal fan and at 7 years old, 2131 just didn't hit me.

Delmon double was definitely up there, though.

[Slidemaster]

I was genuinely afraid that the Angeloses would own the Orioles for my entire life. John was, incredibly, even worse than Peter. And now they're gone. Gone forever. Good riddance.

It's a new day!

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Best day in Orioles baseball in the past 40 years.

Because of the long term possibilities  today and the day ELias was hired are about equal. Culturally the Os have needed to go back 50 years. THe Oriole Way was dead and gone for a long time. This is a very real opportunity to have a new Oriole Way with sustained success. Elias built up the first aspect of it. New ownership needs to do their part. It sounds like Rubenstein understands all of this too. Hes talked about getting MASN resolved. Hes talked about supporting Elias.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Presser scheduled for tomorrow at 11 AM. Assuming it still happens whether the game is PPD or not

[SonicAttack]

W/ PA's passing on, David now has full ownership, the Angelos family is out.  Yay!

[BaltBird 24]

I was genuinely afraid that the Angeloses would own the Orioles for my entire life. John was, incredibly, even worse than Peter. And now they're gone. Gone forever. Good riddance.

It's a new day!

John was leaps and bounds better than his father simply for giving Elias the keys and stepping away - even with the shoestring budget.

[Slidemaster]

John was leaps and bounds better than his father simply for giving Elias the keys and stepping away - even with the shoestring budget.

I dunno man. He was a despicable, greedy, petty man. The comments about how the Orioles couldn't afford FAs because the fans didn't attend enough went over like a lead balloon, and he gave Elias almost zero budget to operate with.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Father and son were both awful in their own different ways. I wouldn't put one above the other as better/worse. What they did share in common is that both were incredibly thin-skinned and petty. (see: Jon Miller and Kevin Brown)

[Mackus]

W/ PA's passing on, David now has full ownership, the Angelos family is out. Yay!

He doesn't have full ownership yet, still just 40%. That'll come soon though, plan was to complete the sale after PA passed. Just not, you know, within a week.

[Slidemaster]

Father and son were both awful in their own different ways. I wouldn't put one above the other as better/worse. What they did share in common is that both were incredibly thin-skinned and petty. (see: Jon Miller and Kevin Brown)

This is probably the correct take.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

https://www.thebalti...PP3CIJNDGW3KHA/

[Slidemaster]

Yes, David. Yes, yes, yes.

“I hope not to be blamed for all the things that might happen that don’t go right, but I’ll deserve the blame if I haven’t done a good job in supporting those who built the team to where it is today, particularly Mike Elias,” Rubenstein said. “My job is not to tell them how to do what they know how to do and I don’t know how to do, but to do what I can to support them."

[Ravens2006]

John was leaps and bounds better than his father simply for giving Elias the keys and stepping away - even with the shoestring budget.

Elias' results were of zero concern to John. He was a perfect fit for what John wanted to do with salary, the result on the major league field didn't matter to him at all. Whether Elias teams won 100+ or lost 100+ made zero difference to Johnny.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Elias' results were of zero concern to John. He was a perfect fit for what John wanted to do with salary, the result on the major league field didn't matter to him at all. Whether Elias teams won 100+ or lost 100+ made zero difference to Johnny.

 

Agree. And to think John was better because he stayed out of Elias' way doesn't account for the full perspective because the current core players developed are still under team control. Thankfully we'll never get the full perspective of what it would eventually look like under John's budget, but if we did I can't imagine anyone patting him on the back for not meddling in baseball operations as all of the top players are traded away or walk in 5 years, and we're back at square one as a 100-loss team starting another painful rebuild.

[RichardZ]

Elias' results were of zero concern to John. He was a perfect fit for what John wanted to do with salary, the result on the major league field didn't matter to him at all. Whether Elias teams won 100+ or lost 100+ made zero difference to Johnny.

Maybe results meant nothing to him. I don’t know. I know he hired Elias and didn’t interfere with:

1. Building a ML quality analytics department
2. Building a ML quality Latin American talent procurement department
3. Building a brand new Dominican complex
4. Drafting who the baseball people wanted to draft

Whether John Angelos cared about results he let Mike Elias do all of the things that produced results. Most people, who don’t hold any personal animus, would give that person some credit for the results.