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[BSLChrisStoner]

Wow. That would have been awful. I don't think the new ownership would make a move like that.

Ehh, that wouldn't bother me.  Baltimore company, and nobody would practically say, "I can't wait to get to T.Rowe Field for a game."  Everyone will still call it Camden Yards / Oriole Park regardless of who wants pay a sponsorship.

[hallas]

I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would care about the naming rights to the stadium when the stadium next door is also corporate named. Besides, Price Park kind of rolls off the tongue. Especially with its neighbor colloquially called the Bank.

[BaltBird 24]

No true Oriole fan would ever call OPACY anything other than OPACY.

[weird-O]

Ehh, that wouldn't bother me.  Baltimore company, and nobody would practically say, "I can't wait to get to T.Rowe Field for a game."  Everyone will still call it Camden Yards / Oriole Park regardless of who wants pay a sponsorship.

I feel the same way. While I'm glad Peter never exercised his right to sell the name, it wouldn't have mattered all that much to me. When I refer to the ballparks that once had a baseball name, I still use the old name: Jacob's Field, Comisky, etc. 

 

There's nothing I can do about Petco

[makoman]

I wouldn’t care about the official name, especially if any money helps improve the team. At least now there’s a chance that would happen.

[BSLMikeLowe]

The only thing that would have bugged me was that it's just another means for John to line his own pockets. If the money is going back into the franchise, I'm cool with whatever they want to call the stadium.

[weird-O]

I wouldn’t care about the official name, especially if any money helps improve the team. At least now there’s a chance that would happen.

I had to look this up, but Globe Life is the most recent corporate addition to MLB. They pay $11M/yr for naming rights. In payroll terms, that's not moving the dial very much. And it will only become increasingly marginalized over the 25 year span of their agreement with the Rangers. Sure, it's nice to have that contribution each year, but I don't see how it really affects anything on the field. 

[BSLMikeLowe]

I had to look this up, but Globe Life is the most recent corporate addition to MLB. They pay $11M/yr for naming rights. In payroll terms, that's not moving the dial very much. And it will only become increasingly marginalized over the 25 year span of their agreement with the Rangers. Sure, it's nice to have that contribution each year, but I don't see how it really affects anything on the field. 

 

$11M/yr is a drop in the bucket for the Rangers, but lately that's been 15-20% of the Orioles' player payroll.

 

Also, like most long-term contracts I suspect that $11M is just the average annual value of the deal, and the Rangers are probably getting less than that now, but will get more than that per year towards the end of the term.

[makoman]

Plus it all adds up. Obviously none of us know what the books look like or how they will run the business, but the more that's coming in the more willing (I'd think) it'd be to spend, whether it's on payroll or other things. An extra 11M pays for several years worth of the 5% over slot draft tax for example. 

[Mackus]

I'll dislike it, but with new ownership it'll at least have a chance at feeling like a sacrificial re-investment rather than just a cash grab.  If they commit to spending whatever the revenue supports, then I'm ok with most efforts to increase that revenue, even the distasteful ones.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Does seem like Angelos preferred to own the team long term fairly recently. How long who knows. Whatever it was that ultimately made him say yes to Rubenstein was a godsend

[You Play to Win the Game]

Does seem like Angelos preferred to own the team long term. At least at one time fairly recently. How long who knows. Whatever it was that ultimately made him say yes to Rubenstein was a godsend

Clearly it was reading someone on BSL continuously call him trust fund baby. To quote Josh Leyman from The West Wing, “victory is mine, victory is mine… bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land.”

[85Knight]

Ehh, that wouldn't bother me. Baltimore company, and nobody would practically say, "I can't wait to get to T.Rowe Field for a game." Everyone will still call it Camden Yards / Oriole Park regardless of who wants pay a sponsorship.

I guess I'm old school or maybe I'm just old. We would get used to it just like everywhere else but I like it the way it is.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Clearly it was reading someone on BSL continuously call him trust fund baby. To quote Josh Leyman from The West Wing, “victory is mine, victory is mine… bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land.”

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[Nigel Tufnel]

Quick interview with Rubenstein:

 

[Mackus]

It's done!  Rubenstein is now in charge.

 

Approved by MLB owners today.  

 

https://www.espn.com...w-orioles-owner

https://www.mlbtrade...-wednesday.html

[mdrunning]

It's done!  Rubenstein is now in charge.

 

Approved by MLB owners today.  

 

https://www.espn.com...w-orioles-owner

https://www.mlbtrade...-wednesday.html

Great! Now we can finally go out and sign Tony Kemp! Oh, wait. . .

[Slidemaster]

What a great day for Orioles Baseball.

[Ravens2006]

Everything John did from the day he took control was for this.  Slash and burn expenses, slash and burn long-term commitments, try to get perks from adjacent development rights, "blank slate" the franchise as much as possible while making it attractive long term to someone who has / wants to spend money too... and in the end maximize profits from sale.  He just thought dad wouldn't last as long as he did.  The success Elias has had was a bonus for the fans, but never a concern for John.

 

Good riddance John. Forever.  Cash out the team.  Cash out the practice.  Move yourself to Nashville with the wife who can't sing. She is legitimately awful if you want to find samples online.   Enjoy your money dude...

[Slidemaster]

Everything John did from the day he took control was for this. Slash and burn expenses, slash and burn long-term commitments, try to get perks from adjacent development rights, "blank slate" the franchise as much as possible while making it attractive long term to someone who has / wants to spend money too... and in the end maximize profits from sale. He just thought dad wouldn't last as long as he did. The success Elias has had was a bonus for the fans, but never a concern for John.

Good riddance John. Forever. Cash out the team. Cash out the practice. Move yourself to Nashville with the wife who can't sing. Enjoy your money dude...

I don't want him in that "special advisor" role. I want him expunged from the organization. Close the book on this dark chapter and move on forever.