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[Mackus]

I'm in the camp of releasing him after the suspension.So what if he gets what he wants? It's addition by subtraction if he is refusing to play when active on game days.

 

Yeah, he can never suit up again.  Think the odds of him signing a big enough deal in the offseason to net a 7th rounder or the odds of him helping a competitor are so small that the cost of carrying him on the roster is the greater evil.  Use that spot for someone who wants to be here.  Anyone.

[jamesdean]

What's going on with Keaton Mitchell?  I thought he'd be more integrated into the offense by now. 

[Mackus]

What's going on with Keaton Mitchell? I thought he'd be more integrated into the offense by now.

Don't think there is room for him right now. Henry and Hill have both been great in their roles. Do think he should get some run against the Giants, hopefully a lot of garbage time.

[jamesdean]

Don't think there is room for him right now. Henry and Hill have both been great in their roles. Do think he should get some run against the Giants, hopefully a lot of garbage time.

He wasn't even active last Sunday.  Doesn't sound like Harbaugh has any urgency to use him. 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Mitchell shouldn't have been expected to do much this year. I do think its mostly a case of Hill and Henry earning all the touches. Hill has been really good in his role this year.

[Pedro Cerrano]

I’m holding Mitchell as my last reserve slot in fantasy because I feel like God might not be done punishing me yet

[Ravens2006]

Mitchell looked like he had some good burst on a return or two when he first came back. Remember one at M&T maybe against CIN (?) where he hit an extra gear real quick. Didn't get a ton on the return but looked like he hit top gear pretty quick.

I think they fear his blocking skills and that limits his snaps. But purely on speed and open field abilities the guy has it. Would like to see them get the ball in his hands 3 or 4 times a game at least.

[You Play to Win the Game]

No concerns RE: Mitchell. We aren't seeing him because Derrick Henry is The King TM and Justice Hill has done a fine job as a receiving back and to spell Hill when needed in running downs. This is what we call a good problem. Mitchell will get his shot soon enough.

[makoman]

Vikings kicker came back from IR so they waived John Parker Romo. 11/12 FG in 4 games this year, though only 1/1 over 50.

My opinion was always just do nothing, assuming no one on the street in December would be any good, but maybe worth looking at this guy.

[cprenegade]

The problem is what do you do with Tucker?  I don't think the Ravens are going to just release him.  Can you afford to keep 2 kickers?  I don't think so.  I think the Ravens are just stuck with Tucker and hope that they can work with him to help him figure out the problem.

 

I heard an interesting take on Tucker's problems.  Someone said he hits the ball so hard that his hips need to push back to keep his body straight for the ball not to hook.  As he is getting older, he is still hitting the ball with the same leg strength but his hips aren't able to push forward as much and so he is hooking the ball where it used to go straight.  I don't know the validity of this take, but I did find it interesting.  If true, maybe he just needs to back off a little with leg strength to accommodate for the loss of hip strength.  It might mean his range decreases by several yards but if it brings his accuracy back I would think it is worth a shot.  I'm not a kicker so I have no clue if this is true or not.  I would think the Ravens special teams coaches would be aware of this.  

[Hooded Viper]

Has there ever been this much analysis of a kicker in the NFL?

[makoman]

The problem is what do you do with Tucker? I don't think the Ravens are going to just release him. Can you afford to keep 2 kickers? I don't think so. I think the Ravens are just stuck with Tucker and hope that they can work with him to help him figure out the problem.

I heard an interesting take on Tucker's problems. Someone said he hits the ball so hard that his hips need to push back to keep his body straight for the ball not to hook. As he is getting older, he is still hitting the ball with the same leg strength but his hips aren't able to push forward as much and so he is hooking the ball where it used to go straight. I don't know the validity of this take, but I did find it interesting. If true, maybe he just needs to back off a little with leg strength to accommodate for the loss of hip strength. It might mean his range decreases by several yards but if it brings his accuracy back I would think it is worth a shot. I'm not a kicker so I have no clue if this is true or not. I would think the Ravens special teams coaches would be aware of this.

That’s what this article is all about. It’s a good article, with analysis from a long time ST coach.

https://www.sbnation...plained-kicking

In my opinion I would think it’d be incredibly difficult to just back off a little. He has probably 20 years of muscle memory, this is simply how he kicks, you can’t just switch that around in a week. Maybe in the offseason when you have 6 months to work on it.

[jamesdean]

Can't even imagine the mental pressure Tucker is under.  Especially when extra points aren't a sure thing anymore.  

[russsnyder]

The problem is what do you do with Tucker? I don't think the Ravens are going to just release him. Can you afford to keep 2 kickers? I don't think so. I think the Ravens are just stuck with Tucker and hope that they can work with him to help him figure out the problem.

I heard an interesting take on Tucker's problems. Someone said he hits the ball so hard that his hips need to push back to keep his body straight for the ball not to hook. As he is getting older, he is still hitting the ball with the same leg strength but his hips aren't able to push forward as much and so he is hooking the ball where it used to go straight. I don't know the validity of this take, but I did find it interesting. If true, maybe he just needs to back off a little with leg strength to accommodate for the loss of hip strength. It might mean his range decreases by several yards but if it brings his accuracy back I would think it is worth a shot. I'm not a kicker so I have no clue if this is true or not. I would think the Ravens special teams coaches would be aware of this.

I think they could keep a kicker on the practice squad.

[85Knight]

The Ravens most likely need to go 4-0 and have the Steelers lose at least 3 games to win the division. The only tie breaker that favors the Ravens if they both finish 12-5 is if the Steelers losses are to the Ravens and the Bengals.

[Mackus]

The Ravens most likely need to go 4-0 and have the Steelers lose at least 3 games to win the division. The only tie breaker that favors the Ravens if they both finish 12-5 is if the Steelers losses are to the Ravens and the Bengals.

Yes, those are the paths. Steelers drop another division game and we win the 2nd tiebreaker or we just beat them outright.

Steelers schedule is tough with games against Philly and KC. They win both then they deserve the division. Split and then they just need to take care of business against Cincy. Lose both and then it's down to our head-to-head.

[Ravens2006]

The Tucker over-analysis in my opinion is because of how FAST he went from "This kick is good, let me hit the bathroom and get some food" to "Maybe we should go for this 4th and 13 at the 30".    He hasn't been the automatic we sort of pretend he is / was from LONG distances (not a gripe, makes sense), but he practically WAS automatic from under 50 and on XPs.  Now that shorter kicks that have NOTHING to do with leg strength are even anxiety raising efforts... ehhhh....

[85Knight]

Yes, those are the paths. Steelers drop another division game and we win the 2nd tiebreaker or we just beat them outright.

Steelers schedule is tough with games against Philly and KC. They win both then they deserve the division. Split and then they just need to take care of business against KC. Lose both and then it's down to our head-to-head.

If they lose 3 or 4 games it obviously gives us more margin for error in the tie breaker scenarios.

[jamesdean]

Let's just take it one game at a time and worry about the pitiful Giants this Sunday.  

[BSLChrisStoner]

The Ravens most likely need to go 4-0 and have the Steelers lose at least 3 games to win the division. The only tie breaker that favors the Ravens if they both finish 12-5 is if the Steelers losses are to the Ravens and the Bengals.

 

Ravens are going to win their last 4.