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[TwentyThirtyFive]

I dont care what the stats say. Thjs is one of the worst pens in the league right now and I wont be convinced otherwise. Every single guy out there has warts. And most of them out there are hideous

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Melanie Newman lecturing people on twitter. She’s so bad at her job. I hate everyone tonight.

Lecturing about what. STFU if you dont know baseball. Its clear she doesnt.

[mdrunning]

If Cano is going to stay in the closer role, then it's probably better to pitch him more since sinkerballers tend to be more effective that way. His velo looked OK tonight, but everything was up in the zone. And when Cano's pitches are up, he's very hittable (to state the obvious).

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Cano has somehow slipped through the cracks in Sept as far as hate but hes now allowed 6 ER in 6.2 this month. Has 2 Ks in his last 10 or 11 innings. Just a disaster of a pen.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

If Flaherty is only available every 4 days then its not gonna work with him out there. Its essentially having an 8 man BP and a 5 man rotation except 1 out of every 4 days. Use the 14th arm you are allowed to have in Sept. Instead they are a man down for 3 days straight. More bad roster management

[CantonJester]

If Cano is going to stay in the closer role, then it's probably better to pitch him more since sinkerballers tend to be more effective that way. His velo looked OK tonight, but everything was up in the zone. And when Cano's pitches are up, he's very hittable (to state the obvious).

 

The tired sinkerballer becomes more effective as the game wears on. 

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Tor might have a playoff spot wrapped up by next weekend. If thats the case you think theywant to go to Minn or TB/Bal. They could low key kinda throw that series next week to be the 6 seed vs 5 seed.

[85Knight]

We're not gonna blow the division. Tonight hurt but we'll win the next 2 then come home and play better. That's what this team does. Book it.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Nobody should be booking anything. The team won the games like tonight all season too. Thats what theyve done all year. But they didnt tonight. There are zero solutions for this pen right now. No lead is safe.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

The only solution right now is to try to score 8 runs every night. And hell that didnt even work tonight.

[cprenegade]

Or maybe Cleveland is just that team that has the O's number.  You can't explain it, it just happens.  Haven't they now won 4 out of 5 against the Orioles?  Can't explain it.  Just need to turn it around.  You see it in every sport.  A team not as good as the other, but seems to have their number.  Weird.  

 

PS.  Cano pitched way over his head earlier this year.  Find someone else as a closer if Buatista can't return.  Cano is way over-rated. 

[mdrunning]

The tired sinkerballer becomes more effective as the game wears on. 

Yep, worked for Mickey Lolich. Or Zach, for that matter.

 

It's interesting to note that our middle relief gave up just one earned run in 4 2/3 IP tonight. Cano, perhaps to his detriment, came in on longer rest and recorded just one out while giving up two earned runs. 

[mdrunning]

I dont care what the stats say. Thjs is one of the worst pens in the league right now and I wont be convinced otherwise. Every single guy out there has warts. And most of them out there are hideous

Kind of ironic that the team with the best bullpen ERA-wise (the Yankees) isn't going to qualify for the playoffs.

[85Knight]

Our 1st loss because of Bautista's absence. Damn.

[Mackus]

Our 1st loss because of Bautista's absence. Damn.

Think you could argue for me three of the last 3 to fit that category. All leads or ties blown late that maybe are avoided wit Felix as the anchor.

Bullpen is a disaster right now. Hopefully a couple guys can get hot and become effective before we get to October. Perez at least was only bad the one time so gotta hope that was a one-off.

But Elias had to fix the pen before the deadline and he did nothing. Awful decision and he's wearing that now. Can't predict Bautista injury, but it was trending towards being a weakness before that and the need was clear. We needed a wartime consigliere, and unfortunately for all his strengths, that's not Mike.

[NewMarketSean]

Said it all year. Young, inexperienced team. Hitting a wall at the absolute worst time. Should have give this team more reinforcements at the deadline.

[mdrunning]

Hindsight to be sure, but maybe it would have been better to let Hall start the ninth last night with two lefties leading off the inning.

[85Knight]

Said it all year. Young, inexperienced team. Hitting a wall at the absolute worst time. Should have give this team more reinforcements at the deadline.

You might be absolutely right about this and it's not just the pitching either. We're seeing the position players looking more taxed offensively and defensively. Some of this is just mental fatigue of a marathon of a season. We need to clinch this division and get some guys rested asap. We need a reset before the playoffs.