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[Mackus]

Ended up spending their full bonus allocation and just barely into the taxable range.  100.3% if I got all the numbers right.  They could've gone about $500k higher by spending the full 105% they can without penalties beyond cash. 

 

Not sure how much Lott was insisting on, or who else they might have been able to draft instead of Fruit in the 9th signing for almost nothing.  But they definitely left a little bit on the table, which is always disappointing.  Possible that they left the draft expecting all their picks to take the full 105% to get signed and simply did a good job of negotiating.  Or that they expected Lott to sign for $500k or so and were surprised he turned their max offer down.  But whatever the case, this is another example of them spending essentially exactly their allocation and not the extra 5% they can.  They spent the full 105% in 2022, but that was the first time they'd gone deep into the taxable range under Elias.  This year its back to just the allocation.  Its a small thing, but I'd really like to see Elias and his scouting department given every weapon available.

[makoman]

I'm gonna guess last year was a special case. While technically they went over, the money was already mostly budgeted and expected to be spent, they just shifted it from pool money to tax money when McLean didn't sign. Maybe they went like a million higher after the tax, I don't remember exactly. But I think they are going to be at around 100% every year, that's just the way it's been. Which is annoying because it's inconsistent anyway based on draft position, they spent something like $5M less this year than last year.

 

According to Callis the Rockies and Twins have never gone past the pool. The Pirates and Mariners were each over 300k short this year. The Brewers came within $30 of the draft pick tax, Blue Jays hit 5% exact, Padres and Cubs within $200, good work there. Cardinals, Dodgers, Cubs, Giants have outspent the pool every year. Of course the Dodgers at least always pick far later than the O's so even though they outspend they have spent less than the O's most years I imagine. Still...seems like a missed opportunity to add. There were several ~400k guys in the 11th and 12th, maybe they are better than Fruit, maybe not, I don't know anything about them.

[Steve55]

I was told it only applies to players who are going to junior colleges, not 4 year universities.

 

 

I went back and reread it and it says junior college which when I looked up the ones who didn't sign Lott was going to Northwest Florida State College which I may have took for a JC. He must be trying to build himself up to go to a bigger name school.

[Steve55]

Ended up spending their full bonus allocation and just barely into the taxable range.  100.3% if I got all the numbers right.  They could've gone about $500k higher by spending the full 105% they can without penalties beyond cash. 

 

Not sure how much Lott was insisting on, or who else they might have been able to draft instead of Fruit in the 9th signing for almost nothing.  But they definitely left a little bit on the table, which is always disappointing.  Possible that they left the draft expecting all their picks to take the full 105% to get signed and simply did a good job of negotiating.  Or that they expected Lott to sign for $500k or so and were surprised he turned their max offer down.  But whatever the case, this is another example of them spending essentially exactly their allocation and not the extra 5% they can.  They spent the full 105% in 2022, but that was the first time they'd gone deep into the taxable range under Elias.  This year its back to just the allocation.  Its a small thing, but I'd really like to see Elias and his scouting department given every weapon available.

 

 

He's going to Northwest Florida State College. Maybe he's looking to get into a bigger name school after a year and $150K wasn't enough.

[Steve55]

I'm gonna guess last year was a special case. While technically they went over, the money was already mostly budgeted and expected to be spent, they just shifted it from pool money to tax money when McLean didn't sign. Maybe they went like a million higher after the tax, I don't remember exactly. But I think they are going to be at around 100% every year, that's just the way it's been. Which is annoying because it's inconsistent anyway based on draft position, they spent something like $5M less this year than last year.

 

According to Callis the Rockies and Twins have never gone past the pool. The Pirates and Mariners were each over 300k short this year. The Brewers came within $30 of the draft pick tax, Blue Jays hit 5% exact, Padres and Cubs within $200, good work there. Cardinals, Dodgers, Cubs, Giants have outspent the pool every year. Of course the Dodgers at least always pick far later than the O's so even though they outspend they have spent less than the O's most years I imagine. Still...seems like a missed opportunity to add. There were several ~400k guys in the 11th and 12th, maybe they are better than Fruit, maybe not, I don't know anything about them.

 

 

McLean signed for slot $740K with the Mets where they will allow him to pitch & hit. Did the O's say they only wanted one or the other last year .?

[makoman]

McLean signed for slot $740K with the Mets where they will allow him to pitch & hit. Did the O's say they only wanted one or the other last year .?

I’m pretty sure I remember there was some kind of medical issue.

 

ETA

Yeah they disagreed about his post-draft physical, so that must be what happened. I guess they saw a problem where at least they wanted to lower the price.

 

https://twitter.com/...234236948959232

[Steve55]

I’m pretty sure I remember there was some kind of medical issue.

 

ETA

Yeah they disagreed about his post-draft physical, so that must be what happened. I guess they saw a problem where at least they wanted to lower the price.

 

https://twitter.com/...234236948959232

 

 

His slot was less than last year.