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[BaltBird 24]

Pierre only had 2 seasons with an OPS+ over 100, a 107 and 105. I'd be a little disappointed if that's all we got from Bradfield.

Pierre rarely walked, didn't strike out much, and got thrown out trying to steal quite bit for a guy with his speed profile.

[Mackus]

I'll be happy if he ever has a 100 OPS+ season.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Pretty sure Bradfields defensive profile is a good bit higher than Pierre's. If hes truly a GG caliber CF that can steal bases that goes a long way for me. Obviously, the bat cant be an anchor and Im hopeful it wont be

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Apparently they give out minor league Gold Gloves. Bradfield won one.

[BaltBird 24]

Will be a big asset if he can bring just league average offensive production with his speed and defense.

[Mackus]

Will be a big asset if he can bring just league average offensive production with his speed and defense.

 

Yeah, league average bat and he's probably a 4 WAR player.  I see little hope for his power, but decent average and really good walk-rate in the minors.  I'm worried the walk rate won't translate, not a lot of guys with zero pop can force pitchers to be careful enough to draw a lot of walks.  But if he's a little above league average OBP, even if he's well below average SLG then he's gonna be an asset.

[dude]

Brenton Doyle just won another GG in CF.

[BSLMikeLowe]

Yeah, league average bat and he's probably a 4 WAR player.  I see little hope for his power, but decent average and really good walk-rate in the minors.  I'm worried the walk rate won't translate, not a lot of guys with zero pop can force pitchers to be careful enough to draw a lot of walks.  But if he's a little above league average OBP, even if he's well below average SLG then he's gonna be an asset.

 

His SLG could get a small boost by an ability to turn some singles into doubles, and some double into triples, simply with his speed. Add in his base stealing ability and maybe pitchers will be a little more cautious because he's a threat to get into scoring position even without the raw power. At least I would guess that is the hope.

[Mackus]

His SLG could get a small boost by an ability to turn some singles into doubles, and some double into triples, simply with his speed. Add in his base stealing ability and maybe pitchers will be a little more cautious because he's a threat to get into scoring position even without the raw power. At least I would guess that is the hope.

He's already turning singles into doubles and doubles into triples. It'll happen less at the next level with better outfielders with more range and better arms.

I think the hope for more power has to come from improvement. Young guys get better. He'll need to, I think, to become an average offensive player at this level.

[BSLChrisStoner]

He figures to be the starter in '26.  

If he's a .700 OPS guy with great defense and a terror on the basepaths, he'll have value.

 

The last 3 years for Mullins has been .721 OPS in '22, .721 OPS in '23, and .710 OPS in '24. 

 

If Bradfield is a .625 OPS guy, he might get the majority of the starts in '26, but he'll be looking over his shoulder for '27.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

He figures to be the starter in '26.  

If he's a .700 OPS guy with great defense and a terror on the basepaths, he'll have value.

 

The last 3 years for Mullins has been .721 OPS in '22, .721 OPS in '23, and .710 OPS in '24. 

 

If Bradfield is a .625 OPS guy, he might get the majority of the starts in '26, but he'll be looking over his shoulder for '27.

Three years of Mullins not being good enough is hardly an endorsement for Bradfield if hes the same bat and likely worse.....lol

[makoman]

Three years of Mullins not being good enough is hardly an endorsement for Bradfield if hes the same bat and likely worse.....lol

Not being as good as 2021 =/= not good enough. He was a 4 WAR player in 2022.

[Mackus]

Strong disagree that Mullins isn't good enough.  Bad take.

[BaltBird 24]

Mullins has had WARs of 3.8, 2.8, and 2.6 since 2021. Certainly "good enough."

[BaltBird 24]

His savant profile is pretty bad, so maybe he could fall off a cliff pretty rapidly, but he's been a fairly solid contributor despite the lackluster advanced metrics.

[makoman]

You get a lot of leeway if you're a plus plus CF, look at Jacob Young. Mullins isn't that anymore, but seems like Bradfield could be. Young has similar minor league #s, but I suppose there is still hope Bradfield can hit a bit better. 

[BSLSteveBirrer]

Mullins is ok but I am tired of accepting OK on a team that has a butt load of payroll flexibility. 

[makoman]

Mullins had a 107 OPS+ this year. Judge, Soto, and Stanton were the only Yankees regulars who were better. The Dodgers had a number more, but none of them played a game in CF.

[Mackus]

Mullins had a 107 OPS+ this year. Judge, Soto, and Stanton were the only Yankees regulars who were better. The Dodgers had a number more, but none of them played a game in CF.

 

Only 7 guys had a 100 or higher wRC+ in over 350 PA (roughly half a year's worth of PA) in CF.  Ced was one of them (103 in 487 PA).

[BSLRoseKatz]

Only 7 guys had a 100 or higher wRC+ in over 350 PA (roughly half a year's worth of PA) in CF.  Ced was one of them (103 in 487 PA).

 

 

Yeah using the B-R database, this is everyone with at least 50% of their games in CF, 2.5 bWAR and an OPS+ above 100 since his 30/30 season, he's been in the top half or top third of CFs based on this criteria even without going 30/30