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#41 JStruds

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:42 PM

Nice job Mullins.

#42 CantonJester

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:42 PM

It's a strange dynamic.

I never imagined that baseball would embrace gambling so fervently.

Save for horse racing, I have never been much of a gambler. I agree with you that the whitewashing and the general dismissal of gambling addiction is troubling.

But hey, ir's all about the $.

 

It's not just baseball too. It's in the pre-game NFL talk shows, NBA, hell, NCAA tournament. The Athletic also is littered with something like 10-15% (estimated) articles touching on prop bets, MVP odds, etc. 


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#43 CantonJester

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:42 PM

Cedric the Entertainer. 



#44 russsnyder

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:42 PM

Nice play by Mullins.
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#45 mweb08

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:43 PM

To a degree sure. But MLB is taking part in whitewashing the dangers of gambling by mainlining it into the consciousness of the broadcast. It's dangerous sh#t.

Ok, apples to oranges though.

They are only truly comparable in that they both deal with gambling. There isn't any logic imo in saying they can't do this if they want to continue their ban against Rose or Shoeless Joe.

#46 russsnyder

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:44 PM

It's not just baseball too. It's in the pre-game NFL talk shows, NBA, hell, NCAA tournament. The Athletic also is littered with something like 10-15% (estimated) articles touching on prop bets, MVP odds, etc.


Good points all.

I subscribe to the Athletic and I just scroll through those articles, but there are a lot of them.
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#47 JStruds

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:44 PM

Huge divide between those two actions.

I say that as someone who'd be good with Rose in the HOF.


If there was any evidence at all that Rose bet against his own team, I'd fully agree on that huge divide concept. Since he apparently did not, I understand your point, but cannot fully accept it.

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:47 PM

Ok, apples to oranges though.

They are only truly comparable in that they both deal with gambling. There isn't any logic imo in saying they can't do this if they want to continue their ban against Rose or Shoeless Joe.

I do agree with your point.

Jackson was banned 100 years ago and Rose 30 some yeaes ago. Rose paid the price that was set up by Jackson and his teammates. You'll never see any current players participating in the commercials though. That's a line they can't cross.

As an older baseball fan, it seems strange.
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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:51 PM

Orioles up 3-0.  Feels like we should be working these guys over more, but I guess they're out there trying too.

 

Let's go.



#50 CantonJester

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:56 PM

Baker backward-struts off the mound on that pitch. I like this kid. 



#51 JStruds

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:56 PM

Baker dominant again. Sweet.

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 07:59 PM

If there was any evidence at all that Rose bet against his own team, I'd fully agree on that huge divide concept. Since he apparently did not, I understand your point, but cannot fully accept it.


While betting against your team is the worst sin, selectively betting on your team while being connected to the mafia is still a substantial sports sin.
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#53 jamesdean

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:01 PM

If there was any evidence at all that Rose bet against his own team, I'd fully agree on that huge divide concept. Since he apparently did not, I understand your point, but cannot fully accept it.


He did admit that he bet for his own team which in of itself had to affect how he managed the Reds. It was not only incredibly stupid on his part but inherently sacrilegious within the sport. Then he compounded the situation by being a pathological liar about it. He got what he deserved and will be dead and gone before there's any chance he gets into HOF.

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:05 PM

Again though, I'm good with Rose getting into the HOF.

#55 JStruds

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:14 PM

He did admit that he bet for his own team which in of itself had to affect how he managed the Reds. It was not only incredibly stupid on his part but inherently sacrilegious within the sport. Then he compounded the situation by being a pathological liar about it. He got what he deserved and will be dead and gone before there's any chance he gets into HOF.


I think I'm a lot less pro-Rose than against professional sports getting in bed with gambling sites and locations. He was wrong, no argument. That doesn't make the seeming hypocrisy any more palatable.

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:16 PM

It's wild how quickly the pecking order in the bullpen changes. Not criticizing it, just in awe.

#57 JStruds

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:17 PM

Back to the game. Too bad Perez continues to struggle, but very pleased with Cano so far.

#58 JStruds

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:22 PM

Gunnar needed that.

#59 CantonJester

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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:23 PM

Gunnar with his first ribbie in almost two weeks!



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Posted 19 April 2023 - 08:31 PM

Bauman given one K, earning the second.




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