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#1 BSLRoseKatz

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 09:54 AM

I don't know when we'll get the exact ballot, but here are the top 10 new eligible players sorted by bWAR

 

Adrián Beltré
Joe Mauer
Chase Utley
David Wright
Bartolo Colon
Matt Holliday
Adrián González
José Bautista
José Reyes
Victor Martinez
 
Beltre should be a lock and I have a hard time seeing arguments against Mauer and Utley not getting in eventually as some of the best at their positions during their playing career

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 12:25 PM


I don't know when we'll get the exact ballot, but here are the top 10 new eligible players sorted by bWAR

Adrián Beltré
Joe Mauer
Chase Utley
David Wright
Bartolo Colon
Matt Holliday
Adrián González
José Bautista
José Reyes
Victor Martinez

Beltre should be a lock and I have a hard time seeing arguments against Mauer and Utley not getting in eventually as some of the best at their positions during their playing career


I agree. Beltre should be first ballot. Mauer and Utley maybe eventually.
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Posted 25 January 2023 - 01:05 PM

Utley doesn't deserve to get in.


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Posted 25 January 2023 - 01:24 PM

Utley doesn't deserve to get in.

Has more fWAR than any other 2B in the 21st century and was part of a Phillies team with 1 WS, 2 pennants and 5 straight division titles, pretty strong combo of individual numbers and being a key part of a team that was a consistent winner, if that's not getting you in then idk what else will for a 2B not named Joe Morgan or Jackie Robinson 



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Posted 25 January 2023 - 01:41 PM

Colon should get in just for the HR highlight that continues to delight me to this day.


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Posted 25 January 2023 - 02:28 PM

Beltre, Helton, and Mauer next year.



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Posted 25 January 2023 - 03:15 PM

Has more fWAR than any other 2B in the 21st century and was part of a Phillies team with 1 WS, 2 pennants and 5 straight division titles, pretty strong combo of individual numbers and being a key part of a team that was a consistent winner, if that's not getting you in then idk what else will for a 2B not named Joe Morgan or Jackie Robinson 


I just don't know that 5 good/great seasons gets you in. But with baseball getting watered down, who knows anymore. I mean, Rolen before Helton? Pfft.

 

If we're cool with guys like Rolen and Utley getting in, guys who struggled to stay healthy, then you absolutely have to get Mattingly in there. And take a look at some players from the 70s and 80s who deserve to be in based on the new credentials. Dave Parker, for instance.


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Posted 25 January 2023 - 03:30 PM

Off topic, but I saw a stat the other day that Mattingly hit 6 grand slams in one season. And none in any of his other seasons. Kinda wild.
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Posted 03 December 2023 - 09:14 AM

The Ringer: JAWS and the 2024 Hall of Fame Ballot: Joe Mauer



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Posted 03 December 2023 - 09:21 AM

Utley doesn't deserve to get in.

Just wrong. And he will get in too. Prob not 1st ballot but he will make it. 



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Posted 03 December 2023 - 07:20 PM

Utley won't be getting on a first ballot, but JAWS suggests he'll get in a tick below the average HOF 2B. So yeah, he should get in eventually. Though Willie Randolph and Lou Whitaker both say hi. 



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Posted 03 December 2023 - 08:31 PM

Jim Leyland elected...

https://apnews.com/a...4aM0-KDJ7f3hfBs



#13 Pedro Cerrano

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Posted 03 December 2023 - 10:07 PM

I get annoyed with these metrics. Stuff like JAWS parallel stuff like WAR

people invent these formulas and nobody really fact checks them

Has anyone broken down JAWS and said whether it’s legit? Or is it just a guy who has a platform?

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

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Posted 02 January 2024 - 05:44 PM

CBS Sports: Baseball Hall of Fame voting: Why 2024 could finally be Todd Helton's year for enshrinement

https://www.cbssport...r-enshrinement/



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Posted 03 January 2024 - 12:58 PM

Utley won't be getting on a first ballot, but JAWS suggests he'll get in a tick below the average HOF 2B. So yeah, he should get in eventually. Though Willie Randolph and Lou Whitaker both say hi. 

 

As does Bobby Grich.


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Posted 22 January 2024 - 10:21 AM

CBS Sports: Alex Rodriguez's Hall of Fame chances look hopeless, and he could be next MLB immortal who is not immortalized

https://www.cbssport...t-immortalized/



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Posted 22 January 2024 - 10:25 AM

Still don't know how or why Ortiz got in. Well, I know why, but still.


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Posted 22 January 2024 - 10:34 AM

CBS Sports: Alex Rodriguez's Hall of Fame chances look hopeless, and he could be next MLB immortal who is not immortalized

https://www.cbssport...t-immortalized/

I know I'm in the minority here, and I respect others opinions, but man, a Hall of Fame without a guy like A Rod seems insane to me. 

 

If the PED thing is so important (I don't think it is), then put something on the plaque or something. 


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Posted 22 January 2024 - 10:42 AM

The precedent is set with ARod. Barry Bonds is the greates hitter ever. Ever. And oh he stole 500+ bases and was a good fielder too. When he goes in then it opens the floodgates for some others. Not a single one of these other PED guys get a sniff of anything until you put Barry in first by himself.

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Posted 22 January 2024 - 10:45 AM

The precedent is set with ARod. Barry Bonds is the greates hitter ever. Ever. And oh he stole 500+ bases and was a good fielder too. When he goes in then it opens the floodgates for some others. Not a single one of these other PED guys get a sniff of anything until you put Barry in first by himself.

Yea, you're spot on. Bonds obviously should be in, Clemens and A Rod too. The fact that they were jerks obviously doesn't help, fair or not. 


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