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[TwentyThirtyFive]

I think Handley could be a starting ML C. Not gonna happen here but I can see him being that highly thought of defensively and having just enough offense to make that a reality.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Ill also say that you do kind of see the point people were making about the starting pitching behind GRod and Hall. Yes, Bradish graduated but the next few guys are Rom, Pinto, and Baumann in the 15-20 range. Ive already noted Im not big on any of the 3. Baumler is interesting if he can actually pitch but thats been an issue. Tavera has upside. Vallimont Im still not understanding any of the hype. Besides we are already down to #30 on the list.

[BobPhelan]

True no top of the rotation guys but they’re developing guys like Tavera and Denoyer really well.

[Hooded Viper]

Holliday being the 3rd prospect on pretty much everyone's radar is simply because he was the 1st overall pick...right?  I mean he hasn't done anything to be rated higher than Cowser or Hall. 

 

Edit:  BTW, when does Holiday start practicing and playing and at what level, Delmarva, or is that too high for him right now?

[Mackus]

Holliday being the 3rd prospect on pretty much everyone's radar is simply because he was the 1st overall pick...right?  I mean he hasn't done anything to be rated higher than Cowser or Hall. 

 

Edit:  BTW, when does Holiday start practicing and playing and at what level, Delmarva, or is that too high for him right now?

 

Its because of the reasons why he was the #1 overall pick.  Holliday absolutely deserves to be rated higher than Cowser and Hall.  It's all projection and scouting, and not results, but in the minors that's far more important than stats anyways.  If Lee or Berry were the #1 pick, they'd be ranked below Hall and maybe below some combination of Cowser/Mayo/Westburg as well.

 

Producing as you climb the ladder is important.  The guys closer to MLB certainly have a higher floor and more likelihood of earning a promotion (both Hall and Cowser are near 100% to that right now).  But Holliday as a #1 overall pick is also pretty close to a certainty to debut at some point (very few #1 picks have ever not made the majors).  So the question is more about upside and expectation.  I think Holliday clearly has the better overall projection than either Hall or Cowser (you could argue Hall's upside might be higher, but not Cowser, IMO).

[BobPhelan]

Yeah, Mackus nailed it. That’s where his talent level is and why he was picked where he was. He will move up or down from this baseline depending on how he does over the next couple years.

He should start in the FCL this week and maybe make it to Delmarva when the FCL season ends. Start next year in either Delmarva or Aberdeen as a 19 year old (all season). He should move quick for a high schooler but he’s still a high schooler.

[TwentyThirtyFive]

Told you to put some respect on Ortiz's name. He is clearly top 20. 

 

 

Amazing what he has done. He was lowish .600s OPS through June. Feels like even into July. Now he is almost .800. Obviously a great glove.