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[BSLChrisStoner]

Balt Sun: Orioles reset: Jorge Mateo is the type of waiver claim the club’s rebuild has been waiting for

[Mike B]

It is nice to see the Orioles add speed.  It also looks like Hyde has been given orders to play Martin and Mateo, which is fine unless you are Ramon Urias.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Urias has a sore leg or something.  I think it's Franco who should be worried.

[Mike B]

Urias has a sore leg or something.  I think it's Franco who should be worried.

Thanks, I did not realize that.

 

Franco is on borrowed time, so I think maybe Urias plays third.

[BSLChrisStoner]

MASN: Scout on Mateo: “He’s still young and he’s got a lot of tools”

https://www.masnspor...t-of-tools.html

[Mike B]

There is a lot of energy on this guy.  His speed is certainly elite, but just from the little I have seen him, there are a lot of holes.  Hopefully, they can teach him.  First thing, is teach him how to take throws at second base.  He never seems to be in position.

[BSLChrisStoner]

MASN: Former Orioles knew where Mateo belonged

https://www.masnspor...o-belonged.html

[TwentyThirtyFive]

MASN: Former Orioles knew where Mateo belonged
https://www.masnspor...o-belonged.html

Interesting. Havent watched him play enough but I think he's earned a long look in '22. Good to hear he's so well liked. That can help more than some may realize

[BSLRoseKatz]

 

Obvious small sample size but if someone that fast can start getting on-base more, that's a pretty valuable piece of your lineup

[BSLChrisStoner]

Balt Sun: With subtle swing changes and a ‘five-tool’ skill set, Jorge Mateo has locked down the Orioles’ everyday shortstop role

[TwentyThirtyFive]

If Mateo keeps going at this pace, both offensively and defensively, should he be penciled in as the starting SS in '23. On pace to be somewhere between a 2 and 4 WAR player depending on if you want to take fWAR or rWAR.

[You Play to Win the Game]

I’ll allow it.

[makoman]

His defensive stats are phenomenal despite a lot of errors. Hope he can figure out how to hit a little more, even to like Urias levels. 

[Mackus]

I don't think the defense will be good enough to support a 74 OPS+ (though you gotta give him a bump up from OPS+ to account for his baserunning). Feels more like a fluky stat thing that he's so highly rated so far this year. I see the flashy plays and good range, but the lazy errors really bug me.


Would be fine with Mateo versus a typical cheap vet, but I'd be very interested in a major FA upgrade like Correa or Bogaerts if they opt out or maybe Turner.

[glenn__davis]

If Mateo keeps going at this pace, both offensively and defensively, should he be penciled in as the starting SS in '23. On pace to be somewhere between a 2 and 4 WAR player depending on if you want to take fWAR or rWAR.

 

You've got Gunnar having a monster season in Bowie.  Is Gunnar a SS though?  He thinks he is.  I suspect we'll find out next spring.

[BSLBobPhelan]

You've got Gunnar having a monster season in Bowie. Is Gunnar a SS though? He thinks he is. I suspect we'll find out next spring.

He looks like it this year, defense has improved almost as much as the bat.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

What Mackus said is spot on. A competitive team needs better than Mateo.

[You Play to Win the Game]

I think 2035 and Mack are both right. He said “penciled in”. Not locked in or given a long term extension, etc. I do think he can be penciled in at this point, but I’d also be okay with upgrading. That said, his production at SS is more than adequate, there are other areas they can upgrade. In other words, I want some premium upgrades, but I’m not hell bent on that needing to be at SS.

[Old Man]

What Mackus said is spot on. A competitive team needs better than Mateo.

I agree.

 

Seams like Elias has a very small budget to work with, so its going to be rebuilding from the draft, and dumpster diving.

 

I have no problem with dumpster diving at all. DD made it work pretty well, but that wasnt the only way he filled out the roster.

[BSLSteveBirrer]

I agree.

 

Seams like Elias has a very small budget to work with, so its going to be rebuilding from the draft, and dumpster diving.

 

I have no problem with dumpster diving at all. DD made it work pretty well, but that wasnt the only way he filled out the roster.

Disagree but perhaps its semantics.

 

Dumpster Dan did well with that aspect of things. The fallacy IMO is thinking that you can build a truly competitive team doing just dumpster diving. Its great for filing out a roster but I do not think it gives the team what it needs to get over the top. DD did only dumpster diving.